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Can someone help me sort through fact and fiction on the separating families issue?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:34 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:34 am
I’ve reached my max on what I can take on this issue, in term of social media. It’s seems that every other post is either outrage or justification of this issue. I tried to google to better understand and that just seemed to make things worse.
When did this start?
Why the outrage now?
How are these children treated?
On average, how long does this separation last?
For opponents of this policy, what is their solution?
I think my biggest frustration with all this is that whether people hate or condone this policy, nobody ever talks about solutions. Any help you can give is genuinely appreciated.
When did this start?
Why the outrage now?
How are these children treated?
On average, how long does this separation last?
For opponents of this policy, what is their solution?
I think my biggest frustration with all this is that whether people hate or condone this policy, nobody ever talks about solutions. Any help you can give is genuinely appreciated.
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:37 am to Webster23
Why is it our fault that people are bringing their kids to commit a criminal act? I understand it’s an awful situation, but if you take your kid with you to rob a bank, what do you expect?
No personal responsibility.
No personal responsibility.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 5:38 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:38 am to Webster23
Before Trump.
Because Dems.
Better than in their home country.
Don't know, don't care.
They will complain about everything so solutions are irrelevant.
Because Dems.
Better than in their home country.
Don't know, don't care.
They will complain about everything so solutions are irrelevant.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:45 am to starsandstripes
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Before Trump.
Because Dems.
Better than in their home country.
Don't know, don't care.
They will complain about everything so solutions are irrelevant.
You sound like you need to open your doors to your place and take in some of these mistreated people. Show us how it's done, legally, and get back to us. Maybe you'll go down as the answer man to our immigration problem.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:46 am to Webster23
The law is either the law or we have nothing. Criminals are able to reproduce. The kids can’t help who their parents are. Sadly, our country must make some tough decisions. The families are separated due to facilities for detainees. There aren’t family facilities. So they are separated to house them in a suitable facility.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 5:47 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:47 am to starsandstripes
I saw a news clip showing how they are treated, playing on x box, clean, neat clothes, eating burgers and fries, going on a zoo outing......while US citizens sleep in their own feces and dig through garbage dumpsters for food in California.
Ill give you one guess who Nancy Pelosi thinks is being treated poorly, would actually make a good campaign ad, throw in a little MS-13 violence to boot.
Ill give you one guess who Nancy Pelosi thinks is being treated poorly, would actually make a good campaign ad, throw in a little MS-13 violence to boot.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:58 am to Homesick Tiger
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You sound like you need to open your doors to your place and take in some of these mistreated people.
Reading is hard.
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Show us how it's done, legally, and get back to us.
Well, this is completely unrelated to what I wrote.
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Maybe you'll go down as the answer man to our immigration problem.
I do have the answer: Build the wall, deport them all.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:04 am to Webster23
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Why the outrage now?
North Korea success
Lame arse IG report
The more effective Trump is in general and the weaker their narrative, the more desperation takes over. Soon they will be projecting again, you will likely learn that Trump is a pedo, and he is separating kids so he can treat them to pizza. Notice how the alters pop up here and the wave of current libs on here disappear for a few months. It’s all orchestrated, even here on little ole PT.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:04 am to Webster23
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:15 am to Webster23
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When did this start? Why the outrage now? How are these children treated? On average, how long does this separation last? For opponents of this policy, what is their solution?
Been happening for a long time, was somewhat changed to use of more family detention centers under Obama (these were hell holes, look it up).
The children are treated, in most cases, better than hey have ever been.
On average the parents and kids are separated for a short time but it’s hard to say because so many varied circumstances.
The opponents and protestors of the current situation fall into two camps:
-naive Facebook type outragers who see this as another way to bash trump
-subversives who will not be happy until the illegals crossing our border are not detained or stopped in any way, no matter who they are or where they are headed.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:27 am to starsandstripes
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Reading is hard.
Reading is easy. Determining sarcasm is hard.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:51 am to Webster23
The real truth is that these children are being used in an ongoing criminal enterprise of human trafficking and in many cases the SALE of children in White slavery.
These children have illegally crossed multiple borders. They illegally were taken from their native country, evidenced by they and any accompanying adult have no passport. The whole trip is a series of illegalities.
The women, which is identified as any girl 13+ in their cultures, are routinely raped along the journey. Estimates are 80% of ALL women illegally migrating are raped by the Human Traffickers.
These children are being condemned to a life of crime! They have no legal recourse as they cannot report crimes against them without revealing their own illegal activities! Forever living in fear from all sides, from authorities of the state, local, federal governments of many nations, from being easy due to their illegal status. They cannot put down any real roots fearing their location by ICE.
All this because someone stole them away from their homes.
These children have illegally crossed multiple borders. They illegally were taken from their native country, evidenced by they and any accompanying adult have no passport. The whole trip is a series of illegalities.
The women, which is identified as any girl 13+ in their cultures, are routinely raped along the journey. Estimates are 80% of ALL women illegally migrating are raped by the Human Traffickers.
These children are being condemned to a life of crime! They have no legal recourse as they cannot report crimes against them without revealing their own illegal activities! Forever living in fear from all sides, from authorities of the state, local, federal governments of many nations, from being easy due to their illegal status. They cannot put down any real roots fearing their location by ICE.
All this because someone stole them away from their homes.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:57 am to Homesick Tiger
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Reading is easy. Determining sarcasm is hard.
wouldn't be if we had a blue font, the universal symbol of sarcasm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:59 am to Webster23
Policy started during Obama regime...democrats had no problem with it till now...just more fake outrage from the left...
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:13 am to LSURulzSEC
I can solve the entire problem, it's an easy fix. Don't cross the US border illegally. Problem solved.
The responsibility is on the parents, the laws are on the books and known. Period.
The responsibility is on the parents, the laws are on the books and known. Period.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 7:14 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:14 am to gthog61
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wouldn't be if we had a blue font, the universal symbol of sarcasm
Huh.
I widely adopted (and available) color or font for sarcasm seems like it would be great to reduce misunderstandings.
Surprisingly, this is the first I've run across this concept (not being sarcastic at all).
since we don't have a blue font, perhaps we could adopt underlined italics for denoting sarcasm.
That would be better than blue anyway (a specific color will be too distracting).
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:37 am to Dawgfanman
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was somewhat changed to use of more family detention centers under Obama (these were hell holes, look it up).
At one point they were using, I shite you not, the Border Patrol Academy/FLETC in Artesia NM to house these people.
Because hiring was essentially frozen under Obama they were not using much of the facility.
Replaced border patrol agents with illegal border crossers.
The locals did not appreciate that.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 8:43 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:59 pm to IllegalPete
I keep seeing this question asked, “who is actually for separating immigrant children from their parent?”. They are asking the wrong question. The question is, how do we stop those parents from entering the country illegally so we don’t have to separate them? Again, I’m tired of hearing people condone or condemn. If someone insist on talking about it, let’s discuss solutions.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:01 pm to Webster23
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Can someone help me sort through fact and fiction on the separating families issue?
Fact: GEOTUS did everything right.
Fact: Main Stream Media is spreading wild propoganda because they hate America and are all libtard marxists.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:16 am to Webster23
LINK
From the article explains why kids are separated at first.
From the article explains why kids are separated at first.
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When a migrant is prosecuted for illegal entry, he or she is taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals. In no circumstance anywhere in the U.S. do the marshals care for the children of people they take into custody. The child is taken into the custody of HHS, who cares for them at temporary shelters.
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