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re: Can dignity exist in a capitalist society?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Anthropology.
He’s a deeply insecure, misogynistic man. But he knows how to write a dissertation, which is what we met about.
He’s a deeply insecure, misogynistic man. But he knows how to write a dissertation, which is what we met about.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:28 am to 4cubbies
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But we live in a capitalist society. Capitalism drives pretty much every aspect of our society.
Again, capitalism is freedom.
When you say "capitalism drives pretty much every aspect of our society" you're saying "freedom drives pretty much every aspect of our society".
And to respond to your response preemptively:
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:29 am to 4cubbies
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Anthropology.
Not my #2 guess but in my top 5
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No!
If those tariffs are new, then that is literally new governmental regulation
It is a new way of attaining revenue, at least in part from a foreign source, or by opening those markets to American exports, or both.
quote:Negative.
Again, increasing tariffs are the opposite of this.
Tariffs do not occur in isolation.
You're forwarding the same kind of economic simpletonism which holds that tax cuts uniformly equate to decreased revenue.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:31 am to NC_Tigah
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It is a new way of attaining revenue, at least in part from a foreign source, or by opening those markets to American exports, or both.
Its protectionism, which hinders innovation.
Our auto industry cant survive without govt subsidies anymore.
If you prefer less choice and higher prices, support it. I do not.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, capitalism is freedom.
It is not. Capitalism is the pursuit of profit in a theoretically free market but free markets don’t really exist.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:32 am to NC_Tigah
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It is a new way of attaining revenue,
Which is what I said
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at least in part from a foreign source,
Which Americans will pay in higher prices
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Tariffs do not occur in isolation.
This is irrelevant
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You're forwarding the same kind of economic simpletonism which holds that tax cuts uniformly equate to decreased revenue.
No. My comment has nothing to do with this, overlap with this, or association with this argument.
As I've told you in other discussions, tax receipts will be around 20% of GDP with any normal (non-polar) system of taxation.
You are just fighting the label because it's Leftism.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:33 am to 4cubbies
quote:Well then your question is fricking idiotic.
I believe dignity is intrinsic to everyone. It’s God-given. It’s not measurable - you either have it or you don’t. I believe everyone possesses dignity because we were all made in the image and likeness of God.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:33 am to 4cubbies
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Capitalism is the pursuit of profit in a theoretically free market but free markets don’t really exist.
Only because of people like your professor.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:34 am to 4cubbies
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It is not. Capitalism is the pursuit of profit in a theoretically free market but free markets don’t really exist.
Does such distortion of the free market serve to increase or decrease dignity?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:34 am to 4cubbies
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Again, capitalism is freedom.
It is not.
Anyone in this country can succeed, and choose their own path.
Those that fail, do not fail because of a lack of opportunity.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Those that fail, do not fail because of a lack of opportunity.
There are some cultural issues that exist, but this is 90% true.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:37 am to 4cubbies
quote:Prototypical. You can bet those qualities lead him to feel undignified relative to those who who don't share them.
He’s a deeply insecure, misogynistic man.
Life in youth is about the dream.
Life as we age is about the reality.
If the reality underperforms the dream, dignity is the cost.
Your prof wants to blame others for his own underachievement, That, cubbies, is undignified.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Only because of people like your professor.
Tell me more.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
Although I'll use this opportunity to ask if this is a capitalist-scumbag thing to do. A marketing-type agency just reached out to me and said they'd give me $100 for a 30-minute demo (I get these about once every 3-4 months of varying amounts). However, they sent this "cold call" to my admin email. I already use this service, but it's associated with my primary email.
Would I be a scumbag to get the $100?
Would I be a scumbag to get the $100?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:38 am to 4cubbies
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Tell me more.
He wants government intervention into markets, which makes them less free.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:39 am to 4cubbies
Leftism is like the leftover waste that didn’t survive prior to capitalism. Prior to capitalist societies the leftist lazy and low IQs would have died off without the affordability of the welfare state that is afforded off the backs of capitalist tax payers.
You wouldn’t even be alive long enough to have this discussion 150 years ago. Move elsewhere if you don’t like it.
You wouldn’t even be alive long enough to have this discussion 150 years ago. Move elsewhere if you don’t like it.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:40 am to NC_Tigah
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He’s a deeply insecure, misogynistic man.
Prototypical. You can bet those qualities lead him to feel undignified relative to those who who don't share them.
My question to her is why would she take something an extremely insecure misogynist believes and think its true.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:40 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You don't understand what you're responding to. That is 'literally' the element Americans do not pay.
at least in part from a foreign source,
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Which Americans will pay in higher prices
quote:If it was "irrelevant," I'd not have raised the issue. It isn't.
This is irrelevant
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:41 am to NC_Tigah
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Your prof wants to blame others for his own underachievement, That, cubbies, is undignified.
He has an impressive resume. He’s insecure about other things like desperate need to be liked and affirmed. Either way, I don’t think the focus should be on him. I’m sure he feels like he has dignity. We were discussing marginalized people and whether or not society treats them with dignity.
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