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Can anyone remedy this for me? Re. border towns, illegal immigration, and assimilation

Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:20 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112615 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:20 am
I've seen plenty of people on this board, conservatives too, hopeful that the illegal population will eventually assimilate in American culture. Is this backed up anywhere? The border towns in Texas, Arizona, etc. are notorious shitholes. If assimilation was happening, wouldn't these areas be more prosperous?
Posted by Ray Corona
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2019
119 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:22 am to
Eventually this country will be majority Illegal Immigrants and anchor babies. Nothing is being done to stop this. Birthright citizenship is a disaster and so are all the handouts that Illegals game the system to use.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I've seen plenty of people on this board, conservatives too, hopeful that the illegal population will eventually assimilate in American culture. Is this backed up anywhere? The border towns in Texas, Arizona, etc. are notorious shitholes. If assimilation was happening, wouldn't these areas be more prosperous?


Why isn't Denham Springs more prosperous?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32537 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:24 am to
quote:

hopeful that the illegal population will eventually assimilate in American culture.

I’m hopeful, but I know it ain’t gonna happen. These people want to come here for our entitlements. It’s better to be poor in America than anywhere else in the world.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79080 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:25 am to
Have a lady friend - Hispanic by birth - who's parents only wanted to assimilate into US culture so they stopped their kids from learning Spanish.

Well......over the weekend they went tubing here in Texas and she was with 4 other Latina gals. They went to a bar that was majority white (go figure seeing as tubing is a big white thing) and the 4 gals kept asking if there was a Mexican bar they could go to instead

Shocker: All 4 are married to Mexican men.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112615 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:26 am to
Deflect much? Can you point out these prosperous areas I'm missing out on. Thanks.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:27 am to
Why would illegals assimilate? They literally have no reason to.

This is the major reason why going through the proper citizenship proceedings is so important. It teaches people to appreciate what they had to go through to get citizenship and also teaches them the history and mechanics of their new country. You know who absolutely hates illegal immigrants? Legal immigrants.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112615 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:28 am to
Exactly. It’s why Beto suggested taking the citizenship test away. Assimilation is racist. Every culture but suburban white culture is so powerful and worthy of pride.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 10:29 am
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Why isn't Denham Springs more prosperous?


As compared to what? And in what areas?

I’m currently in Laredo, and considering the amount of dollars they get from the border it is an absolute shite hole. And no, not much assimilation to be found.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30005 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:17 pm to
if you want people to assimilate in American culture then all you have to do is tell every single government agency across this great nation that there will never again be a button to push to hear english.

everything will always be in english and no other language will be used for any communication with any official government agency.

99.9% of all immigrants are lifetime members of gimme free shite club and if they want free stuff they better learn to ask for it in english or you cant get it. they can go hire a frickin interpreter if they must, but we need to stop helping people to not assimilate to this country on an official level.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

I've seen plenty of people on this board, conservatives too, hopeful that the illegal population will eventually assimilate in American culture. Is this backed up anywhere? The border towns in Texas, Arizona, etc. are notorious shitholes. If assimilation was happening, wouldn't these areas be more prosperous?



I don't think hispanic immigrants are beyond assimilation. You have plenty of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant kids who are now small business owners or whatnot in Texas.

I once worked for a group that did a lot of research and legal work relating to immigration, and despite being very conservative, the finding wasn't that there was any inherent obstacle to assimilation. In fact, the prospects for assimilation were pretty good under the right circumstances.

The biggest obstacle to assimilation was enclaves, which is probably exactly what you get in border towns. Where there is spanish TV/radio, communities of other people who are just like you, food just like home, etc. There is no incentive or need to assimilate. Combine that with forces telling you that those who promote assimilation hate you and your culture, and it's a pretty huge obstacle.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112615 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:37 pm to
Right - what i'm getting that is the left is promoting these enclaves across America.


I'm far more comfortable with our immigration problems compared to Europe. I think Hispanics would assimilate fine if assimilation wasn't stigmatized.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25445 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:37 pm to
Won’t happen. It’s too big a jump from 3rd to 1st world behaviorally.
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