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re: Can anybody tell me where Trump has gone wrong enough to be impeached?
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:57 pm to VOR
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:57 pm to VOR
Yep,he won't be impeached,he just needs to be ousted as the gop candidate for 2020.Any gop candidate can win the next election,or the last one for that matter.No need to keep this maniac in office.
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:49 pm to Bard
Ohh boy...I don't have the time nor the inclination to debate fools such as you so blinded by the all the orange spray tanner in their eyes...but I will make an exception:
His request for loyalty from Comey who was overseeing investigation. Asking Comey to let go of investigation into Mike Flynn. He is also known to have asked Pompeo and Coats to influence Comey to back off Flynn. He told Kislyak in the whitehouse “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” and “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” which comes from leakers out of the "great people he's hired". His constant berating of Jeff Sessions over his recusal from the investigation. Which was 100% appropriate due to his failure to disclose Russian contacts during the campaign. The false public statement he drafted for DJTJ already mentioned. Constant "false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States.” Such as repeated untruthful statements regarding US Intelligence agencies and their consensus on Russia meddling in the election. This was a major factor in the impeachment of Nixon.
Taken individually, these don't appear as all that serious, but as a whole draws the complete picture of the criminal that he is. I do not hold you responsible for your complete lack of understanding of criminal conspiracy. If you people that supported him had done your research into this mans history of cheating, deceiving and defrauding rather than embraced his opposition of all things not-conservative (which was his strategy to pull your puppet strings) you would have understood how unfit this man is for the most powerful position in the world.
In regards to your Emoluments argument, Stephen Jurkowski of Cornell Law Schools individual interpretation holds no weight in the specific definition as such “No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.” The plain and simple fact here is that as a business owner in the hospitality and real estate industry he is an extremely precarious position to receive influence from foreign interest and repeatedly does so by his ownership of the D.C. Hotel that almost 100% used by foreign dignitaries when visiting on official business. “A federal officeholder who receives something of value from a foreign power can be imperceptibly induced to compromise what the Constitution insists be his or her exclusive loyalty: the best interest of the United States of America,” The best interest of U.S.A. is secondary to this mans own self interest. PERIOD!
Argue and deny all you like, and keep praying to your false idol. In the words of the immortal Mr. Johnny Cash "what is done in the dark, will be brought to the light"
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What specific actions has he taken that have obstructed justice?
His request for loyalty from Comey who was overseeing investigation. Asking Comey to let go of investigation into Mike Flynn. He is also known to have asked Pompeo and Coats to influence Comey to back off Flynn. He told Kislyak in the whitehouse “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” and “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” which comes from leakers out of the "great people he's hired". His constant berating of Jeff Sessions over his recusal from the investigation. Which was 100% appropriate due to his failure to disclose Russian contacts during the campaign. The false public statement he drafted for DJTJ already mentioned. Constant "false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States.” Such as repeated untruthful statements regarding US Intelligence agencies and their consensus on Russia meddling in the election. This was a major factor in the impeachment of Nixon.
Taken individually, these don't appear as all that serious, but as a whole draws the complete picture of the criminal that he is. I do not hold you responsible for your complete lack of understanding of criminal conspiracy. If you people that supported him had done your research into this mans history of cheating, deceiving and defrauding rather than embraced his opposition of all things not-conservative (which was his strategy to pull your puppet strings) you would have understood how unfit this man is for the most powerful position in the world.
In regards to your Emoluments argument, Stephen Jurkowski of Cornell Law Schools individual interpretation holds no weight in the specific definition as such “No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.” The plain and simple fact here is that as a business owner in the hospitality and real estate industry he is an extremely precarious position to receive influence from foreign interest and repeatedly does so by his ownership of the D.C. Hotel that almost 100% used by foreign dignitaries when visiting on official business. “A federal officeholder who receives something of value from a foreign power can be imperceptibly induced to compromise what the Constitution insists be his or her exclusive loyalty: the best interest of the United States of America,” The best interest of U.S.A. is secondary to this mans own self interest. PERIOD!
Argue and deny all you like, and keep praying to your false idol. In the words of the immortal Mr. Johnny Cash "what is done in the dark, will be brought to the light"
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:52 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
You could’ve just typed “I don’t know shite about anything.” Would’ve been shorter and more accurate.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:02 am to the808bass
My bad, I do have difficulty dumbing down my communications for you halfwits. 
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:30 am to LeauxCountryTigah
Would you like to know how I can tell you are a blind Never-Trumper?
I respectfully pointed out the flaws in your points and asked questions for clarification and you come back with tiresome disparaging remarks. Only the intellectually weak who blindly follow or rail against someone for no other reason than to assuage their personal preference retort in such a way to an attempt at an adult discussion.
Thanks for being predictable.
It could be unethical, but it's not illegal.
See above.
See above.
The head of the FBI serves at the pleasure of the President. Appointed positions in government have good pay and a lot of stroke but you serve at the whim of the appointing authority, it sucks but that's the reality of it.
Comey is also on the record for having lied to Congress about his knowledge of anonymous leaks. While this justification comes after the firing, it's justification nonetheless. Comey was weak-willed in succumbing to his own bias by failing the Hillary investigation (why do you think the FBI interviewed her without putting her under oath and since when is intent a predetermination of a violation of law?) and should have been removed on the first day of the new administration. That Trump kept him after that is far more a testament to Trump's willingness to work with people (as well as his naivete to the depth of politically-fueled incompetence in and around DC) than it is a detraction of the man.
I agree that with this. But it's not obstruction. Again, see the First Amendment.
I'm all for politicians being held accountable for the lies they tell to get elected or after they are elected. I would dearly love to see some sort of legislation that truly holds their feet to the fire, but it doesn't exist...
...unless you do it while testifying in court under oath.
(remember what I said about Hillary's interview not being under oath?")
Except that you have yet to come up with an actual law he's broken.
That's mighty white of you. I appreciate your ironic magnanimity.
A roaring economy, re-negotiating trade deals in our favor, beginning to break down North Korea, crippling ISIS, record and near-record Unemployment (depending on the category) and sky-high consumer confidence disprove that narrative.
We disagree on the definition but we agree on one thing: Trump should indeed have followed through on his divestments (if only to just avoid the bad optics). I actually want the lawsuit to continue so we can get a solid ruling from SCOTUS on this once and for all.
You seem to take any disagreement on your stances as sycophantic. Is there some logic to it, is it a knee-jerk defensive measure so you don't have to think beyond "us vs. them" or is just plain laziness of thought on your part?
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Ohh boy...I don't have the time nor the inclination to debate fools such as you so blinded by the all the orange spray tanner in their eyes...
I respectfully pointed out the flaws in your points and asked questions for clarification and you come back with tiresome disparaging remarks. Only the intellectually weak who blindly follow or rail against someone for no other reason than to assuage their personal preference retort in such a way to an attempt at an adult discussion.
Thanks for being predictable.
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His request for loyalty from Comey
It could be unethical, but it's not illegal.
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Asking Comey to let go of investigation into Mike Flynn.
See above.
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He is also known to have asked Pompeo and Coats to influence Comey to back off Flynn.
See above.
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He told Kislyak in the whitehouse “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” and “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
The head of the FBI serves at the pleasure of the President. Appointed positions in government have good pay and a lot of stroke but you serve at the whim of the appointing authority, it sucks but that's the reality of it.
Comey is also on the record for having lied to Congress about his knowledge of anonymous leaks. While this justification comes after the firing, it's justification nonetheless. Comey was weak-willed in succumbing to his own bias by failing the Hillary investigation (why do you think the FBI interviewed her without putting her under oath and since when is intent a predetermination of a violation of law?) and should have been removed on the first day of the new administration. That Trump kept him after that is far more a testament to Trump's willingness to work with people (as well as his naivete to the depth of politically-fueled incompetence in and around DC) than it is a detraction of the man.
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His constant berating of Jeff Sessions over his recusal from the investigation. Which was 100% appropriate due to his failure to disclose Russian contacts during the campaign.
I agree that with this. But it's not obstruction. Again, see the First Amendment.
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The false public statement he drafted for DJTJ already mentioned. Constant "false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States.” Such as repeated untruthful statements regarding US Intelligence agencies and their consensus on Russia meddling in the election. This was a major factor in the impeachment of Nixon.
I'm all for politicians being held accountable for the lies they tell to get elected or after they are elected. I would dearly love to see some sort of legislation that truly holds their feet to the fire, but it doesn't exist...
...unless you do it while testifying in court under oath.
(remember what I said about Hillary's interview not being under oath?")
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Taken individually, these don't appear as all that serious, but as a whole draws the complete picture of the criminal that he is.
Except that you have yet to come up with an actual law he's broken.
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I do not hold you responsible for your complete lack of understanding of criminal conspiracy.
That's mighty white of you. I appreciate your ironic magnanimity.
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you would have understood how unfit this man is for the most powerful position in the world.
A roaring economy, re-negotiating trade deals in our favor, beginning to break down North Korea, crippling ISIS, record and near-record Unemployment (depending on the category) and sky-high consumer confidence disprove that narrative.
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Emoluments
We disagree on the definition but we agree on one thing: Trump should indeed have followed through on his divestments (if only to just avoid the bad optics). I actually want the lawsuit to continue so we can get a solid ruling from SCOTUS on this once and for all.
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Argue and deny all you like, and keep praying to your false idol.
You seem to take any disagreement on your stances as sycophantic. Is there some logic to it, is it a knee-jerk defensive measure so you don't have to think beyond "us vs. them" or is just plain laziness of thought on your part?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:43 am to the808bass
I'm mentally ill and have no clue would have been better.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:43 am to Bard
Just keep dancing while you still can little puppet
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:58 am to LeauxCountryTigah
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Just keep dancing while you still can little puppet
Once again you prove the weakness of your stance by devolving the conversation when you cannot back your claims with actual facts when challenged. What's even more amusing is the irony of your retorts.
Carry on though, good Never-Trumper warrior! One day your dream will come true and Trump will no longer be President.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will enjoy having a robust economy and continuing to see wage growth and high employment.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:27 pm to Bard
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:28 pm to Frac the world
Save yourself the heartache and divorce your wife now. You need to get as far away from that insanity as possible.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:31 pm to bencoleman
Is your name Bob by chance?
I still crack up at your answer to that question.
I still crack up at your answer to that question.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:34 pm to Frac the world
Because he's Hitler.....
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:40 pm to Frac the world
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My wife just told me her father, a lifelong Republican, is voting all democrat in the midterms
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My wife also says she may not vote for him again in 2020
Sounds like a fun holiday season is coming.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:47 pm to TigerMyth36
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Obstructing Justice - his repeated attempts to interfere in the Russia investigation...if he is innocent of all wrong doing why not just let it play out and the truth be revealed? (Non-conspiratorial answers only please)
2. Failing to uphold his oath of office - his constant attacks on freedom of the press is a direct attack against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution.
3. Violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution - Golf outings at his own Hotels is funneling tax money into his business that he has not divested from. Because Trump never divested from his business interests, he violates the Constitution every time the Trump Organization has business dealings with foreign or American government officials. Do you notice how he does not go to Marthas Vineyard or Camp David when taking time off? Always a Trump property to the tune of for every 4.2 days of his presidency he has spent 1 day at a Trump property.
4. Trump tried to cover up his campaign’s contacts with a Russian national at the Trump Tower meeting which, at very least, constituted a violation of federal law. He personally dictated a cover statement to DJTJ that the meeting was about adoptions when DJTJ's own released emails clearly state the meeting was about receiving negative information on their political opponent from a hostile foreign government.
5. Abuse of pardon power - Joe Arpaio was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, which constitutes a violation of their constitutional rights. Trumps pardon of this man violates the 5th Amendment of the Constitution.
6. Advocating Violence and Undermining Equal Protection Under the Law - When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence. When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws. When Trump shared anti-Muslim content on Twitter, he violated his obligation to uphold equal protection of the laws.
7. Directing Law Enforcement to Investigate and Prosecute Political Adversaries for Improper and Unjustifiable Purposes.
and tax fraud. State of N.Y. and local in NYC. He can't pardon his way out of it.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 1:50 pm to CelticDog
I learned something new the other day in an OT thread...just how much an A hole Dr Suess was in real life. My wife , her brother could not vote for Trump ( neither voted for Hillary ) out of disrespect for the man...for the way he treats people. The ...personality. My new end game is develop the argument "look we support support a-holes all the time because of their body of work is substantial. Everyone with a kid has read / owned / celebrated DR Suess...so you can make the distinction of personality vs product, or do we need to throw out our kids books, or be massively hypocritical?"
ETA. I tried this at the election using the Rob Lowe sleeping with underage girls ...and my wife watching Parks/Rec. I may be "insane" trying the same thing hoping for a different result
ETA. I tried this at the election using the Rob Lowe sleeping with underage girls ...and my wife watching Parks/Rec. I may be "insane" trying the same thing hoping for a different result
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