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re: Can a Trump supporter help explain this one?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:51 am to Bulldogblitz
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:51 am to Bulldogblitz
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how dare you attempt to suppress the votes of thousands of Chinese and Russian voters who only want to support our Democratic process of voting by phone app.
I don't see a problem with foreigners with capital investments voting in our elections, at least national elections. If money has the same constitutional rights as people then foreign money is equal to a citizens money. Anyone who doesn't know that foreign interests lobby politicians, ie bribe them with campaign contributions with the understanding that the highest bidders interests are foremost in the mind of the bribed, they are living in a dream world that hasn't existed ever in the US.
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:52 am to fatheadgator
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fatheadgator
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960 posts in just under 14 years.
These cocksuckers come crawling out of the woodwork like roaches EVERY frickING TIME there’s a crisis.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:54 am to fatheadgator
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He states that mail voting is corrupt (it’s not)
You are either too naive or too stupid to think the whole mail-in vote push is for nothing but corrupt purpose. Why do you think democrats are pushing it?? Oh sorry. Forgot you don't think.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:54 am to AggieHank86
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(who would otherwise have no realistic opportunity to vote)
Explain why you thing a person can't show up and vote.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:58 am to fatheadgator
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fatheadgator
I take back my apology for calling you leftists filth.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:00 am to fatheadgator
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Can a Trump supporter help explain this one?
Since this is now at 8 pages I'm guessing that they can explain it to you but they can't understand it for you.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:04 am to AggieHank86
I just think that protected rights should be protected evenly.
If I have to have an ID to buy a firearm why is it that an ID to vote disproportionately impacts minorities?
If I have to have an ID to buy a firearm why is it that an ID to vote disproportionately impacts minorities?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:10 am to Bulldogblitz
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how dare you attempt to suppress the votes of thousands of Chinese and Russian voters who only want to support our Democratic process of voting by phone app.
Well, TBH, Democrats are FOR foreign interference in elections if it benefits them.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:39 am to 93and99
quote:Middle of a six-month assignment outside Kuala Lumpur, drilling oil wells for his employer.quote:Explain why you thing a person can't show up and vote.
who would otherwise have no realistic opportunity to vote)
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:44 am to Turbeauxdog
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100 percent
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Link?
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:52 am to fatheadgator
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He states that mail voting is corrupt (it’s not)
It is corrupt. Anyone can pick up a mail-in ballot, fill it in, sign and drop it in the mail to be counted.
There is no ID required (I live in L.A. and always have to show my ID when I vote). There is no address verification and that you are at the right polling place. There is no one to verify a signature.
I can just see a group of people going around, gathering up mail-in ballots and having a ballot party where you fill it in the way you want, sign the names, and drop it in the mail.
Way too much opportunity for corruption and ballot harvesting.
As for Trump mailing in his vote....can you imagine the cluster frick of him heading out to the polling place?
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:54 am to NoHoTiger
You're wasting your breath.
The Left do not care about fair elections, they will simply do whatever is necessary to win.
The Left do not care about fair elections, they will simply do whatever is necessary to win.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:56 am to Gtmodawg
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I don't see a problem with foreigners with capital investments voting in our elections, at least national elections
Buy one share of stock, get to vote in US elections. Nothing could go wrong with that
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:57 am to AUX3
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sn’t it a dem tactic to give stuff away to get people to vote, cigs, etc and bus people to polls- for one that is embarrassing
For mail in votes, can you send political operatives, home by home and help them fill in their ballots...put in mail etc, is that legal?
Also, how would you stop someone else from filling in the form, and just having them sign it.
Voting is supposed to be private and a personal responsibility. Making it so easy to vote that someone can just do it for you and you sign it sounds illegal and defeats the purpose of saying all votes are equal.
I thought this was a good post.
I just wanted to add, that the USPS is run by and contains many brainwashed, left wing, government loving, leaches.
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
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Middle of a six-month assignment outside Kuala Lumpur, drilling oil wells for his employer.
What about an absentee ballot ?
When I had to go to Ohio for work , I called Florida for an absentee ballot because I wouldn't be in Florida on the day of the vote .
I was asked a bunch of questions over the phone and they mailed it to me.
One of my brothers votes absentee nearly every election because of being out of town or state for work.
They are actually certified by an election worker. They compare signatures.
There is no way these election workers can certify millions of ballots in a short time. It would take months to open these envelopes , check the name on the absentee and verify the signature.
Mail in voting is a BAD idea for ALL voters and should only be used for a true absentee.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:15 pm to 93and99
quote:In this circumstance, an “absentee ballot” is little different from a more-general, mail-in ballot. It is certainly subject to all of the same concerns regarding the legitimacy of the vote.quote:What about an absentee ballot ?
Middle of a six-month assignment outside Kuala Lumpur, drilling oil wells for his employer.
In other words, the validity of the “voter fraud” argument suffers, if a state allows absentee voting.
Your other arguments are primarily logistical ones.
Frankly, I agree that voting by mail or internet (except in extreme circumstances such as expats) is a bad idea, PRIMARILY for logistical reasons. To do it right will cost a LOT of extra money, and I see no reason that I should pay my taxes to make voting marginally easier for someone who is too lazy to take half an hour and go vote in person ... especially when he can pick his day during 2-3 weeks of in-person early voting (which I see as a GOOD idea, not least because it reduces the need for absentee voting).
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:16 pm to MAGA
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I take back my apology for calling you leftists filth.
I’m not leftist
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:19 pm to fatheadgator
Mail in Ballots are an extension of no voter ID being required.
Without providing a form of ID then who actually filled out the ballot?
Democrats want it for vote harvesting.
Without providing a form of ID then who actually filled out the ballot?
Democrats want it for vote harvesting.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:24 pm to AggieHank86
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The QUESTION is whether such a system would be a NET benefit, by allowing (1) more voting by legitimate voters (who would otherwise have no realistic opportunity to vote) than (2) illegitimate voting.
If anyone actually wants to engage in a reasoned discussion, THAT is the discussion.
I like how we do mail ballots here in Florida- each ballot requires a signature and that signature is then verified with the signature on file- all non matches are sent to the canvass board who then will decide - those that appear to be fraudulent are sent to the State Attorney to investigate and prosecute.
We address ballot harvesting by limiting how many mailed ballots I can turn in- i can turn in 2- my own and one other ballot
I think if write enough protections, mailed ballot would be as secure as in person voting
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:28 pm to fatheadgator
Ah yes... yet another Dem parlor trick. Trump put his ballot in the outgoing mail. That act alone made the Vote-by-mail system corrupt. Make sure you don't closely examine what happens after the ballot arrives at its intended destination.
Word parsing at its finest. Yes. The old vote-by mail Parlor Trick.
Word parsing at its finest. Yes. The old vote-by mail Parlor Trick.
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