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re: Can a single leftist explain how multiculturalism is supposed to work?

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Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:07 pm to
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Well, take India. They have a large Sikh population. But the Indians don't appreciate their cultural enrichment so a lot of Sikhs moved to Canada where they make their enrichment plans in peace.


Sikh's are the engine of innovation in India.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:09 pm to
America would work if our immigration was based on a merit system with a compatibility scale. What has been done since the 1960's changes in immigration policy is ideological idiocy.

Posted by tgerb8
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Can a single leftist explain how multiculturalism is supposed to work?


knowing libs, I assume it's going to take more taxes and a 50 billion dollar budget for a new govt 3 letter agency. and the removal of "assault rifles."
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:47 pm to
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Black people have enriched our music and cuisine.
In general, black people are immoral and the bane of society. Don’t try to dissuade me from what I see every single day. The pattern exist. It’s clear as the nose on your face. Stop trying to get people to ignore the obvious. Read all about it: LINK
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
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In general, black people are immoral and the bane of society. Don’t try to dissuade me from what I see every single day. The pattern exist. It’s clear as the nose on your face. Stop trying to get people to ignore the obvious. Read all about it: LINK


As I stated earlier, the biggest hindrances to multiculturalism working are cultural Marxism (the radical Left) and outright racists (you).
Posted by Antoninus
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:03 pm to
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I have never understood this concept. Is there a single example in recorded human civilization of a nation having multiple cultures, and not one dominant culture? (This is not to confuse with countries having smaller subcultures)

What is the explanation for why native citizens would want "multiculturalism" and what are the benefits it provides?

From my perspective, there will always be one dominant culture that wins out and will seek to dominate that culture. The current zeitgeist in America seems to be pushing a very gay, neo-liberal, marxist global culture that despises the traditional American Christian heritage. But there is no way for both of these cultures to coexist with each other.
Throughout history, the VAST majority of large kingdoms and empires have been multi-ethnic and multi-cultural. The Achaemenid Persian Empire. The Macedonian Empire. The Roman Empire. Hell, the British Empire. The list goes on and on.

Sure, the culture of the people who founded each entity tended to be the "dominant" one, but very rarely did they attempt to destroy the cultures of the people that they ruled. As long as they paid their taxes, the "dominant" culture didn't really care what god(s) they worshipped or how they organized their daily lives.
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:04 pm to

It's been known to weaken society for a long time now.
Posted by tango029
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:05 pm to
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Different monocultures, yes.


Lol you think being white is a culture? Slavs, Nords, Iberians. Franks, scots, Irish, Anglo, Welsh, german, Greek, Romani, Dutch. They fought and killed each other for centuries and most certainly don't share the same culture, and yet that war the core of what began the United states, with a large group of Chinese being added later to build the railroad.
Posted by Antoninus
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Well, take India. They have a large Sikh population. But the Indians don't appreciate their cultural enrichment so a lot of Sikhs moved to Canada where they make their enrichment plans in peace.
India is actually a perfect example of a multi-cultural and multi-ethnic nation. It has literally hundreds of distinct ethnicities with VERY different cultures, from the Bengalis to the Marathi. This map shows only the MAJOR ethnic groups:

This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Antoninus
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Odd fact...Almost all male Sikhs have 'Sikh' as their first or middle name. It's kinda like all the Muslims named Mohammed.
It is Singh for men and Kaur for women.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:09 pm to
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As I stated earlier, the biggest hindrances to multiculturalism working are cultural Marxism (the radical Left) and outright racists (you).

I see you didn't read the article - and how the cultures of Africa from which they come are still ingrained into the black culture of today. Still, after 200+ years, they haven't washed it out of their cognitive skills and how they process their environment. You, my friend, are averse to reality.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Antoninus
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:16 pm to
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In fact, it’s perfectly possible for peoples from different culture to co-exist in a country. In fact, that’s been the case in the U. S.since the 18th Century
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Like the French, Germans, Italians, English, etc.?

France was actually a VERY multi-ethnic and multi-cultural nation until Napoleon. Only about 15% of the population spoke the language that we now call "French," and that had been the case for hundreds of years.

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Like the French, Germans, Italians, English, etc.? They have much more in common than not.


Yes but years ago, European immigrants weren’t considered “white” by today’s standards, and were hated by many.

This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:35 pm to
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Still, after 200+ years, they haven't washed out of their cognitive skills and how they process their environment.


Pre Great Society and civil rights movement they were fine
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:49 pm to
Shouldn't you be in the Middle East, islamo-splaining to the victims' families that their loved ones were "taken out by context"....
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:58 pm to
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It is Singh for men and Kaur for women.


Yeah, it's Singh. But that sounds so Asian. There's probably a million Asians named Singh Lee.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:10 pm to
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Lol you think being white is a culture?


No, and I never said it was.

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Slavs, Nords, Iberians. Franks, scots, Irish, Anglo, Welsh, german, Greek, Romani, Dutch. They fought and killed each other for centuries...


No one said that cultures that share similar values never war with each other.

Who are you arguing against?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26937 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:19 pm to
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France was actually a VERY multi-ethnic and multi-cultural nation until Napoleon. Only about 15% of the population spoke the language that we now call "French," and that had been the case for hundreds of years.



Do you have anything beyond small linguistic differences between regions of a nation during a time when human mobility was extremely limited to show how France was "VERY multi-ethnic and multi-cultural"?
Posted by Ribbed
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Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:20 pm to
1. Import foreigners with differebt cultures.
2. Tell white people they are stupid, worthless, and racist.
3. Corporations get cheap labor. Progressives get voters.
4. Profit.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26937 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:21 pm to
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Throughout history, the VAST majority of large kingdoms and empires have been multi-ethnic and multi-cultural. The Achaemenid Persian Empire. The Macedonian Empire. The Roman Empire. Hell, the British Empire.


Do you have any data that shows, for example, what the population percentage of Rome was at the height of its prosperity?

I hope you're not counting 90% vs 10% of a variety of others as "multi-cultural" or "multi-ethnic".
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