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re: Calling it now re: the tapes.

Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:43 am to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:43 am to
There are no recordings, but Trump is 100% willing to testify under oath that he didn't say what Comey claims he said.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:44 am to
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There are no tapes. After details of their one on one meeting was published , Trump knew Comey was the leaker. Trump baited Comey with a carefully worded tweet that Cowardly Comey couldn't be sure if it was true or not. Cowardly Comey then has to verify Trump isn't under investigation and in the process hanged himself as a leaker.



Let's assume this is true. Comey also got what he wanted - a independent prosecutor that will keep the "cloud" over the Trump admin. Plus, Trump will also be nagged about the tapes and testifying under oath to refute Comey's record of the conversations.

I don't see how Trump is in a better position now. The only way he wins in all of this is if Comey is actually lying. However, Comey has no motivation to lie through his teeth about a taped conversation at this point. It would be the stupidest bluff in history.
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42571 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:00 pm to
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If he had tapes,

I am worried he does have tapes. If he does he can just pack up now and go back to NYC.
I pray to God there are no tapes.
Posted by FandIgod
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2017
217 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:05 pm to
He is playing them like a fiddle. The enemy has no idea how bad they look and can not get past the rage. I for one am glad for it.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Comey also got what he wanted - a independent prosecutor that will keep the "cloud" over the Trump admin. Plus, a $10MM book deal.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:28 pm to
If he Is 2 steps ahead the Russia investigation would be over, Tax reform passed, Obamacare repealed, and a infrastructure bill passed.

Now that Comey has released/leaked info it will not be long before more IC info is leaked to hurt Trump. You don't mess with the FBI (IC) or they will try hard to find something.

There is probably not tapes and even if there is it could only hurt him politically, because these tapes will not be just the Comey conversations.
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 1:57 pm to
The tapes were burned by bannon.

No missing 18 minutes.

Never happened.

What tape?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57189 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 2:47 pm to
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the tapes
wgo the he'll uses tape these days?
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 3:52 pm to
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He's just going to say - I never said I DID have tapes; I just posed it as a hypothetical to bait Comey, and it worked!




He'll regret it when it makes the obstruction of justice case even stronger. Threatening tapes when you have none is the desperate ploy of a guilty man. Having tapes and destroying or at least never producing them is even worse. There's no scenario in which this ridiculous stunt helps Trump other than the tapes actually existing and proving Comey a liar (and we all know that isn't happening).
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 3:54 pm to
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He'll regret it when it makes the obstruction of justice case even stronger.
How?

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There's no scenario in which this ridiculous stunt helps Trump other than the tapes actually existing and proving Comey a liar (and we all know that isn't happening).
Sure we do Skippy.
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:01 pm to
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How?


Because if they don't exist than the tweet was an empty threat meant to intimidate a potential witness. Plays right into the narrative of obstruction.

If they do exist, they are released, and they show Trump making statements he has publicly denied making, then they prove Comey correct and Trump's lies will further demonstrate his corrupt intent.

And now that congress is requesting the tapes and Mueller will certainly subpoena them eventually, if Trump doesn't admit they don't exist but fails to produce them, then he'll just be impeached for that and that aline even if there were nothing else on him.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Because if they don't exist than the tweet was an empty threat meant to intimidate a potential witness

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And now that congress is requesting the tapes and Mueller will certainly subpoena them eventually, if Trump doesn't admit they don't exist but fails to produce them, then he'll just be impeached for that and that aline even if there were nothing else on him.
Odd you glossed over what if they do exist and Trump releases them?

Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:11 pm to
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He's just going to say - I never said I DID have tapes; I just posed it as a hypothetical to bait Comey, and it worked!




It makes him look worse and gives Comey more credibility that Trump would not release the tapes or that tapes don't exist. That Trump postured that he could use tapes to prove the content of the the meetings with Comey to support his side of things and then refuses to step up when Comey puts his own story forward makes it look like Trump is either simply a liar or has something to hide. It makes no sense that you are trying to spin this as anything other than shady or incompetent for Trump. The only way Trump should come out looking "good" from this is if he releases the tapes, and they prove that Comey was lying.
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:14 pm to
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Odd you glossed over what if they do exist and Trump releases them?



He didn't gloss over it. He immediately addressed it by saying that is the only way that Trump looks good. This being able to hold a conversation thing is hard for you isn't it?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:15 pm to
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This being able to hold a conversation thing is hard for you isn't it?
Why the frick are all you guys so pissy today? No perp walk really eating at you?
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 6/10/17 at 4:15 pm to
Trump has stated, there are no tapes. He uses flash drives.
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