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re: California teacher put on leave asked if schools would allow walkouts to protest abortion

Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Bigtime92
Solsbury Hill
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:54 pm to
But we need to have a conversation.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:14 pm to
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This isn’t complicated. Teachers are employees. Employees should not attempt to use customers (in this case students) to express discontent with their employers policies or decisions. Even if the do so by couching with the “just trying to start a conversation” bullshite. Doing so is inappropriate and will result in the same outcome in almost all workplaces. This is true wether the issue is abortion or guns. This teacher learned the same lesson many others have about “free speech” and the workplace. Let the downvotes reign.


Illustrating that the school does NOT actually support student's walking out..........and therefore......that the school SELECTED the walkout which it would tolerate..........thereby indicating that the school IS using students to take a political position..........is certainly an acceptable approach.

Which is what this teacher did.

I highly suspect that the teacher's view is that the teachers have no fricking business doing so and the schools have no fricking business allowing it.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:25 pm to
She shouldn't be on leave if that's all she did.

That said, one of these is not like the other:

School protests school shootings.

School protests abortion.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57222 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:27 pm to
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“I opened up the discussion for if schools … are going to allow one group of students to get up during class and walk out to protest on one issue, would they still give the same courtesy to another group of students who wanted to get up and walk out in protest. And I used the example of abortion,” Rocklin High School teacher Benzel said on Fox News Friday morning.


Right, she is, you know!
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5235 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

This isn’t complicated. Teachers are employees. Employees should not attempt to use customers (in this case students) to express discontent with their employers policies or decisions


If it’s a public school, the students are not “customers”
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:53 pm to
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School protests school shootings. School protests abortion.


OOOOOOhhhhhhhh. Compelling point.

OK.

Maybe they can hold:
Protest lack of sex ed in schools
Protest sex ed in schools
Protest lack of armed teachers in school
Protest not banning guns
Protest not enough minority cheerleaders
Protest not picking cheerleaders based solely on talent

I could go on.

Or. We could just acknowledge that teachers using students as propos to facilitate their desire to protest on the state's dime is a really fricking bad paradigm.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:00 pm to
I heard there was a Kid suspended for choosing NOT to walk out. No link- heard it on the radio
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5235 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:07 pm to
If it’s a public school, the student’s education is being payed for by tax payers and the teachers’ and school administrators’ salaries are being paid for by tax payers. If the school decides to support a protest favoring ONE side of a politically polarizing issue the teacher should have the right to (and any good teacher should want to) present the case for the other side of the issue to promote open mindedness and intelligent discussion to their students.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 2:11 pm
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