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re: California is set to hit its green-energy goals a decade early

Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:08 am to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24580 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:08 am to
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There aren’t any success stories for clean energy. Green-energy is another control mechanism masquerading as a helpful government program.


All hyperbole aside, and I mean this with no ambiguity; if you truly believe what you just wrote here you’re an ignoramus and possibly borderline psychopath.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:09 am
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9585 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:11 am to
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Well... It would knock out a frick ton of pollution and all those horrible things us humans do. "Humans cause global warming!" "If we knocked out 75% of the earth's population we would still have the same problems!" What?


Finally someone on here admits it’s man made. Yes that would help but the problem still exists if we continue to live the same way
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16199 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:12 am to
California renewable energy = an illegal with a paper fan.
Posted by vegas-tiger
NV desert
Member since Dec 2003
2061 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:19 am to
Its because of this...EIM. Electric Imbalance Market.
When Cali can not make its power demands, it goes through this. This is the "make up power" that they need.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35002 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:19 am to
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Finally someone on here admits it’s man made.


Your reading comprehension sucks dick. Humans play a part. How BIG of a part is what is up for debate. But sure.
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Yes that would help but the problem still exists if we continue to live the same way

Society would crumble. We wouldn't be living the way we do now. We couldn't sustain it. Instead those who are left after such a massive 5 billion person kill off will resort back to subsistence living.

But you know what? No more deforestation. No more car pollution. No more fossil fuels being burned. No more needless waste going to landfills.

So. I'm in. Are you? Let's bite the bullet (literally and figuratively) and save momma erf!

Or you can continue to act like you give a frick while still contributing to the earth's demise with your needless waste and pollution.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:21 am to
Texas, Arizona and New Mexico are on similar tracks ... Idaho too.

The Kalifornia greenies have spread like rats and cockroaches.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9585 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:22 am to
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When the state, through force, takes the money of consumers and gives it to industries that the consumers on their own would not have chosen, it is akin to altering/stealing their votes.


It’s more of an investment. Once the infrastructure is built it will be the cheapest power source. It just needs help getting there.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24580 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:23 am to
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Humans play a part. How BIG of a part is what is up for debate. But sure.


You never seem to be in threads that dale and texags7 make that consist of the fact since it’s cold one day then climate change is complete and utter bullshite. I mean you’re really quiet.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9585 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:23 am to
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Your reading comprehension sucks dick. Humans play a part. How BIG of a part is what is up for debate. But sure.


What else plays a part?

quote:

But you know what? No more deforestation. No more car pollution. No more fossil fuels being burned. No more needless waste going to landfills


Yeah I’m in
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:25 am
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:25 am to
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It’s more of an investment. Once the infrastructure is built it will be the cheapest power source. It just needs help getting there.



No one is talking about the ecological drawbacks ... seems sorta hypocritical. I dunno.

Bats are dying by the millions in heavily developed wind power areas.

No one is talking about the heat generated by the solar farms and what they are contributing to global warming ... among other issues.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35002 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:26 am to
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Once the infrastructure is built it will be the cheapest power source


Wind farms kill off endangered birds.

Solar farms raise the local temperature around them by several degrees, negatively affecting wildlife and local plants.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9585 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:27 am to
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Bats are dying by the millions in heavily developed wind power areas.

I’m calling bullshite. Bat population is dying but not because of wind farms

quote:

No one is talking about the heat generated by the solar farms and what they are contributing to global warming ... among other issues.


Really bro
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9585 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:28 am to
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Wind farms kill off endangered birds. Solar farms raise the local temperature around them by several degrees, negatively affecting wildlife and local plants.


You too?

Didn’t know all endangered birds are attracted to wind farms
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:30 am
Posted by iPadThai
Member since Oct 2011
1035 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:29 am to
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I have never ever supported ANY subsidy to any industry.

When you choose to take your business somewhere, you are essentially "voting" for that business.

So I am assuming you are against mortgage interest deductions and long-term capital gains tax too? Because that is essentially the government choosing winners and trying to spur economic growth artificially?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35002 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:30 am to
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You never seem to be in threads that dale and texags7 make that consist of the fact since it’s cold one day then climate change is complete and utter bullshite. I mean you’re really quiet.


So now I'm supposed to police other posters and comment on every climate change debate?

Climate has always and will always change. It's a mixture between natural phenomenon (earf being earf) and human caused. I mean frick, if NOTHING else, more humans = more co2/more deforestation/etc.

I don't give a frick either way as I'll be long dead before the earth cools/heats enough to have any real effect on me.

But at me being "quiet"





Oh and for the record. Idk who the frick this "dale" person or this texags" person are. Sooooooooo
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:35 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:32 am to
I like all of those fancy words you used to pretend as if you’re intelligent. You’ll get some upvotes from the usual crowd. I bet your fourth graders think you’re smart. The only time I made money from so called renewable energy, was from solar panels under the early Obama administration. Do you actually want to talk about the viability of so called renewable energy, or do you prefer to play dress up on a message board?
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:33 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35002 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:33 am to
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You too?


Uhhhhhh.... I mean..... They do kill birds that fly into them... That's kind of a fact.

Did I say it's a huge impact on their populations? Causing them to go extinct? Nope. Just said they kill birds... Which they do.

quote:

Didn’t know all endangered birds are attracted to wind farms

Do you have any reading comprehension skills at all?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24580 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:41 am to
There’s just no way you don’t see dale in the climate change threads. He’s literally carpet bombed through every single one.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24580 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:42 am to
I’d rather talk about how you think ambiguous and hyperbole are fancy words. They’re used in plenty of debates.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35002 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:44 am to
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There’s just no way you don’t see dale in the climate change threads. He’s literally carpet bombed through every single one.


Uhhhhhh... Well...

1) it takes a lot for me to remember who's who here because I post on mobile 99.99% of the time so don't see sigs/avs.

2. I try to stay away from climate control debates because I think both sides are filled with idiots and absolutely NO ONE knows the real answer. And no one ever will. Climate changes. End of story. We're human. We can and will adapt to anything earf throws at us.

3. I don't police the board and keep track of who posts what where.
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