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re: Burn it all down! County secession is key.

Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:22 pm to
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Yeah, I don't get this. Ron accomplished everything to turn FL solid red, yet these people on here want to call him Jeb Bush


Zombies that will regurgitate any talking point from the Trump camp
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:24 pm to
Did you read my posts about DeSantis in this thread? Yes he didn’t feed into it like most states. Florida is still wearing masks when I was down there last month, it’s not as red as you guys claim. DeSantis right now is doing more harm to Florida running when he shouldn’t have. Didn’t he pledge not to run and changed the states laws so he could? Such a fine conservative there. Florida also has a lot of transplants, there are some negatives to how he did proceed and how well he did. Not his fault because ppl saw it but you best be proactive in your state.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:29 pm to
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Wtf he was at the press stage everyday. I watched them with kayley and I wish every president would go there. Biden doesn’t and has had orange woman and lesbian black woman who don’t answer shite themselves. He wasn’t awol.


I think he meant it in terms of leadership. Not being physically present. His leadership was spotty at best on Covid.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:36 pm to
Him being there everyday is a leader. You guys know damn well Fauci has stupid power and the populace bought into his shite. Yet you all ignore that.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Figgy
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:37 pm to
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Another reason why I know trump won massively because most of the state voted for trump even though it went to Biden.


Land does not vote. People vote. That includes the living and the dead. The real and imagined.

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Trump also increased his votes from 2016.


That doesn’t matter. I hate to break that to you.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84580 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:38 pm to
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Him being there everyday is a leader. You guys know damn well Fauci has stupid power and the populace bought into his shite. Yet you all ignore that.


So he was bested by both Fauci and Biden within the last three years and you still want us to believe he’s big dick Don the savior?

Can’t have it both ways.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10020 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:38 pm to
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Approval from Congress and the State involved are required.



Oh, is that how West Virginia was formed?

Because I'd like to see the congressmen's votes from the southern states on the docket.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53927 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:42 pm to
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Well, it literally does matter. There is no such thing as secession.

Unless this is some armed rebellion fantasy.




I guess the nation was birthed on a fantasy?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:46 pm to
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So he was bested by both Fauci and Biden within the last three years and you still want us to believe he’s big dick Don the savior? Can’t have it both ways.


You’re fricking ignorant. The executive branch has 1/3 of power and very little. All you guys cry about is trump when there’s thousands of govt employees & elected representatives who frick you and I over every day from the federal level to the state. Of course it’s all trumps fault!
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38792 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Serious question: How do you lump DeSantis in with the RINOs? I understand many Trump fans don’t like him, but the guy walked the walk on many issues where Trump was failing big time.



Another "serious question". Do you think Ron could pull off the same 'walk' up in DC that he did in Florida? Armchair Quarterbacking is easy and talk is cheap...but Ron is an unproven product in DC where he'll be stabbed in the back just like Trump. Or worse, be forced to compromise in order to escape personal and family ruin.

They have seriously wronged Trump, and Trump is the standard bearer for said wrong. No way they get a pass, it's a win or lose scenario. Screw the TDS *Moderates* who think a civil tongue will sway any votes in a polar ideological war. This ship has sailed.

Sadly, given the dynamics, the OP is closer to a 'solution' than any Conservative politico in DC could realistically offer, much less expect to accomplish.

I'm reading "Dark Aeon", and ten pages in I'm already feeling a cold wave of lucid realized woe. Given what is coming, and how soon opposing forces will line up and fight it out, these current struggles will look like pre-school spats. It will take a massive and Christian-based unified group to have a snowball's chance against what is coming.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:52 pm to
Ron can’t win a primary, he wouldn’t do shite in executive office as president. I’m actually glad he ran and he exposed himself before 28.
Posted by Figgy
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Member since May 2020
9791 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:54 pm to
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Him being there everyday is a leader. You guys know damn well Fauci has stupid power and the populace bought into his shite. Yet you all ignore that.


I don’t ignore anything and I’m not taking up for Ron or anyone else here.

Being present isn’t leading. Rallying people to your cause is. Having addresses to the nation explaining why you’re doing such and such would’ve helped. He didn’t do that at all. He abdicated there to the governors. Which I generally agree with. But extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. Covid was one of those times.

Yeah, he had press conferences but that’s another subject as the media is driving those settings. He needed to speak directly to us while kicking asses behind the scenes. Perception matters and it was disastrous on that level.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:57 pm to
Okay, now imagine everything trump faced but Biden during his term. Biden is on a cake walk. Dems are strong and threw everything at trump. I’m not saying he didn’t frick things up but I guarantee he is the only one who has ever faces those challenges as a president. Do you guys forget all the me too, fake Russia hoax, blm, antifa, Minneapolis, Wisconsin, 2 impeachments and covid? There’s a lot of reasons why he didn’t get shite done. But yep he’s terrible. frick you all
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:02 pm to
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You first.

boosiebadazz huh?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9791 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:08 pm to
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Okay, now imagine everything trump faced but Biden during his term. Biden is on a cake walk. Dems are strong and threw everything at trump. I’m not saying he didn’t frick things up but I guarantee he is the only one who has ever faces those challenges as a president. Do you guys forget all the me too, fake Russia hoax, blm, antifa, Minneapolis, Wisconsin, 2 impeachments and covid? There’s a lot of reasons why he didn’t get shite done. But yep he’s terrible. frick you all


Just a quick question for you: where do you think I stand politically and who do you think I support right now?

I’ll ETA at a later time to address the rest of your post.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36045 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:14 pm to
So very bold behind the keyboard
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:18 pm to
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Oh, is that how West Virginia was formed? Because I'd like to see the congressmen's votes from the southern states on the docket.


It’s exactly how it happened. It came during the Civil War. Virginia and the other southern states were in active rebellion and not allowed to vote.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10020 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:32 pm to
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not allowed to vote


Where is that written in the Constitution that if states are in rebellion (which was Lincoln's framing) they are not allowed to vote?

What about the citizens of the state of Virginia? Did they vote on it?
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 8:34 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112768 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:37 pm to
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Last general election my county had this on our ballot

Legitimate question: why?

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No new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.



Considering the federal government has completely abrogated the Constitution (for example, protection from invasion), it is a legitimate question as to whether its terms are still binding.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:40 pm to
Lol
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