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Posted by teke184
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:19 pm to
Sam Kinnison did a routine on 2 Live Crew and rap in the late 80s / early 90s.

He said it was more entertaining to wipe your arse with $10 and he wondered why The Beatles never got around to such classics as “Suck My Dick.”
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Do you like Outlaw Country? Willy, Waylon, Coe, etc.? Can you really say anything different about those songs from the 70s and 80s? Drinking, drugging, whoring, evading the law, etc. It was a celebration of such vice


Those are fruit of the same poisonous tree. The glorification of the banal, obscene and criminal are all connected. I’m not sure what your point is there.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:45 pm to
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Once reparations are made this will all stop....promise.


Thought that was confederate statues.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Those are fruit of the same poisonous tree. The glorification of the banal, obscene and criminal are all connected. I’m not sure what your point is there.
The point is a lot of threads like these pine for halcyon yesteryear...when halcyon yesteryear was anything but.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Does it? His gyrating pelvis was going to be the end of us all.


You were talking originally about Jim Crow not the sexual revolution. Correct me if I am wrong, but the same people pushing Jim Crow in that era were not Elvis fans because among other things he was a huge fan of Black music and it showed in the way he played. In that way the comparison fell flat is all.

Your point about the sexual revolution is absolutely correct though. He reflected the culture that elevated him, in some ways more than others. (Sexually, yes, Jim Crow, no.)

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Do you like Outlaw Country? Willy, Waylon, Coe, etc.? Can you really say anything different about those songs from the 70s and 80s? Drinking, drugging, whoring, evading the law, etc. It was a celebration of such vice.


Outlaw country was not near as mainstream as pop/rap music is today. I think comparing the cultural impact of outlaw country to Cardi B today is like comparing a high school team to an NFL team in terms of reach. Outlaw country reflected poor white culture and was mainly consumed by that demographic. Compare the outlaw country discography to Cardi B and its not even comparable.

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Which is why I ask the question: what societal art led us down the primrose path of lynching and Jim Crow?


i'm not sure it manifested in a particular song or artist. I think Jim Crow era music specifically can be defined more by the art it purposefully excluded. Culture is reflected by its art, so the lack of Black musicians of that era getting the universal praise and recognition they deserved despite their obvious talent reflects the majority racist culture of that time.
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