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re: BREAKING: Trump describes process of how he declassified documents found at Mar-a-Lago

Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:00 pm to
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There's NO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!!


The US government disagrees.

See: the search warrant receipt that Trump's lawyer signed for that mentioned numerous boxes of stolen classified documents that were recovered.

Trump putting his fingers in his ears and screaming "declassified" doesn't matter here. Might as well pull a Michael Scott and declare bankruptcy (again) while he's at it.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Have you been paying attention?


Yes, they subpoenaed him and visited him in June. These appear to be records, at least partially, which they did not see when they were granted access before. They have requested these additional documents and not been given them. What am I missing?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74595 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:01 pm to
Eventually, you're going to be forced to reconcile the fact that if the swampers has anything on Trump, they wouldn't used that ammo long ago. As it is, they're forced to make shite up on the fly and they look dumber and dumber each time they do.

Mind you, you won't ever admit it to us, but late at night when you are haunted by the reality, that'll do, pig.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:01 pm to
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There's NO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!! What don't you understand about that?


It doesn’t matter if they are classified for the codes they are citing. What don’t you understand about that?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39133 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:02 pm to
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They have requested these additional documents and not been given them.


No they didn't.
Posted by LawTiger18
Member since Aug 2022
657 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:03 pm to
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They've been politely trying to get them back since May 2021, and thought they had them all returned in January 2022. Then they learned Trump continued to hoard stolen classified documents. Sucks for Trump, but he had a lot of ways out of this before this week

It’s so cute that you think they’ve got him this time. Being exposed as fools over and over for the past 6 years of unwarranted investigations driven by lies and fabricated dossiers but you still believe. Absolute dumbass
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127709 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:04 pm to
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The US government disagrees.


Do they? Also, so?
quote:

See: the search warrant receipt that Trump's lawyer signed for that mentioned numerous boxes of stolen classified


Stolen? The gSA packed it up for him and the fbi inspected it on numerous occasions including in June.

The president cannot steal “classified documents” by his very nature of position.

quote:

Trump putting his fingers in his ears and screaming "declassified" doesn't matter here.


That’s actually the only thing that matters.

You are a seriously deranged human.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39133 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:04 pm to
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It doesn’t matter if they are classified for the codes they are citing. What don’t you understand about that?



No laws were broken. Get over it. This is a nothing burger.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:04 pm to
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No they didn't.


Ok. You clearly don’t believe any of the reporting about the subpoenas and timeline. That’s fine. We’ll see how it turns out. If he’s not allowed to have them because they are national secrets then whether or not he declassified is irrelevant.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37178 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:05 pm to
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What if Biden by the same 'standing order' re-classified everything Trump took? Since the (current) President is the ultimate authority...Trump is still screwed. But really, this isn't a true defense and not a reason why he refused to return the documents when asked.

You’re pretty stupid. If it’s not viable then take it to the courts to decide, don’t do nothing for years and suddenly decide it’s raid time.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:06 pm to
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No laws were broken. Get over it. This is a nothing burger.


You may be 100% correct. I honestly don’t know. None of us do at this point. I’m simply saying classified is not the issue to keep your eye on at this point.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:06 pm to
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Cool.

What if Biden by the same 'standing order' re-classified everything Trump took? Since the (current) President is the ultimate authority...Trump is still screwed.

But really, this isn't a true defense and not a reason why he refused to return the documents when asked.


Y’all missed him again.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39133 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:06 pm to
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If he’s not allowed to have them because they are national secrets then whether or not he declassified is irrelevant.


Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:07 pm to
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reporting


Where are you getting your reporting from?
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:07 pm to
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List of people who can eat shite:

Tiger Claw
Tcmgin
Hank
Mickey
HHTM
RuLSU
eddieray
Merrick Garland
Christopher Wray
Groomer Reinhart
BamaATL
Froman
Edamame-loving TBoy
mmcgrath



Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4912 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:08 pm to
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That’s the weakest fricking defense for breaking the law I’ve heard in a while. Good lord.
Hilary used “no intent”, you disingenuous hack bitch. The same lesson all children learn, and the basis of law regarding the fundamental principal of how “ignorance is no excuse” was the literal excuse she used. And you ate it up.

Alleged pedophile Bill Clinton used “depends what the definition of ‘is’ is”, and you ate that word salad all up, didn’t ya lil piggie.

But THIS is the weakest argument you’ve ever heard. LOL.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:09 pm to
Please explain the look? National secrets is a term found in the Espionage Act which dates to WWI. Classified documents started with Truman. Clearly they are not the same thing. There will commonly be overlap, but they do not have to overlap. Please explain what I’m missing.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20477 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:11 pm to
We’ve literally come full circle back to collusion. These guys can’t think outside the box and come up with something new so they tun the same old plays out of the playbook hoping this time they got him. We’ve seriously gone from peepee dossiers to Russian collusion to insurrection all the way back around to espionage and Trump was selling off nuclear secrets.

No one with a brain cell is buying it, only the idiots who desperately want to believe the absolute worst because it validates their irrational hatred of the man.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99872 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:12 pm to
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idea that some paper-pushing bureaucrat, with classification authority delegated BY THE PRESIDENT, needs to approve of declassification is absurd."[/b]


This. Bureaucrats have gotten where they think they are above the president and elected officials. They forget they WORK for those officials, not control them.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12383 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:13 pm to
So you’ll wager on a conviction?
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