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re: Breaking: Multiple fatalities in Orlando shooting
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:05 pm to olddawg26
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:05 pm to olddawg26
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do you think I'm dense enough to think making something illegal makes it impossible to get? I've said numerous times where there's a will there's a way.
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:21 pm to Clames
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If you imagine that the UKs gun-control laws prevent terrorists from obtaining firearms then yes, you do advocate as such implicitly.
Obviously they don't prevent them. What's your point
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:35 pm to olddawg26
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Maybe that's where a disagreement comes in.
Not to be too much of a dick, but that's likely because one of us has experience with these people and one of us doesn't.
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But I also don't think bladed weapons being throughout a book where firearms didn't exist at the time is much of a coincidence.
Of course, but I think you missed my point, which was directed at your specific example and my specific experience.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:38 pm to olddawg26
OK, I get that, but when articulated properly, that is a valid point.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:41 pm to olddawg26
My point is that your argument is based on a poor understanding of gun-control laws and their history. You simply have an opinion and little applicable education to support it.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:55 pm to olddawg26
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well could have been a situation in Europe when they couldn't get a hold of a gun due to their strict control policies.
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I've said numerous times where there's a will there's a way.
so he didnt have enough will this go round to find a gun?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:01 pm to Clames
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My point is that your argument is based on a poor understanding of gun-control laws and their history.
I would argue that your understanding of my argument is poor, because if I asked you what you think my point is, I'd be surprised if you were right
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:02 pm to DawgCountry
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so he didnt have enough will this go round to find a gun?
Call it will, call it connections call it availability or funding means, but no I don't think the guy that tried to murder people in the lourve could get a gun when he wanted to.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:05 pm to olddawg26
It isn't, you just can't accept your argument is flawed and lacks a proper understanding of the topic.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:05 pm to olddawg26
If you want a gun, you can find a gun. Anywhere.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:09 pm to Loserman
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mmcgrath
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Could you be a bigger piece of shite?
Why yes he could...
Mmcgrath hasn't gone full Donald so there's that.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:15 pm to Clames
You have no idea what my point is apparently.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If you want a gun, you can find a gun. Anywhere.
Agreed
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:17 pm to olddawg26
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but shitty nail bombs and knives are NOT what the terrorists want to use. They want Paris. They want Orlando. They don't want 2-3 people here and there
Ummmm. Wrong. Using nail bombs and trucks are MORE detrimental than guns. Why? Because you're around cars much much more. You look over your shoulder. Much much more. The thought of a bomb being made out of stuff you have at home, or the thought of being run over walking down the street by the 10000 cars that pass rather than the 2 or 3 guns you see.
The use of items we use in our daily lives in unusual ways strikes more fear than a lame old shooting.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:20 pm to beerJeep
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The use of items we use in our daily lives in unusual ways
If one radical Islamist could do a Paris attack any night of the week what's stopping him?
Why even take the time to put together a shaky fertilizer bomb with trial and error?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:21 pm to olddawg26
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I don't think the guy that tried to murder people in the lourve could get a gun when he wanted to.
Well, you'd be wrong.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:21 pm to olddawg26
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The use of items we use in our daily lives in unusual ways
If one radical Islamist could do a Paris attack any night of the week what's stopping him?
Why even take the time to put together a shaky fertilizer bomb with trial and error?
What are you even arguing?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:21 pm to olddawg26
I know your point, an unoriginal one that's frequently made by those that know less than they should before making it.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't think the guy that tried to murder people in the lourve could get a gun when he wanted to.
Listen I love to learn, got a lot of people saying "you're wrong" but no one actually explaining a point. Would love to know yours since you've dealt with them more than I have. Or you assume.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:23 pm to Clames
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I know your point
I just don't think ya do
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