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re: BREAKING: Maricopa County Ballot Batches Off By 17.5%, ‘Likely Joe Biden Did Not Win AZ

Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:17 pm to
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You're right! Impeachment is super likely!! Definitely worth discussing!


There you go again.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:17 pm to
You are missing the point. while there is not specific language in article V that speaks to the rescission of ratification by congress, there has been legislation proposed in AZ specifically that would give the state legislature the ultimate authority on who the presidential electors are - even after congressional ratification. specifically to deal with lawfare "running out the clock" on election challenges during the transition. Laws like these create the avenue you say doesn't exist. Again, there may not be a clear constitutional roadmap for overturning a presidential election at this moment, but suggesting there's is no way to get there other than bloodshed is stupid. Its even more stupid to assume that states who uncover incontrovertible fraud will throw their hands up and not take the necessary legislative steps to make it right. If this werent the case, NO ONE would be fighting this fight.

Posted by BigDawg0420
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:18 pm to
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There has been evidence produced tying any fraud to Joe Biden?


The mental gymnastics you people pull just to bury your head in the sand. Wake up.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:18 pm to
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I'm failing


We know.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77691 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:18 pm to
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I'm failing to understand why people think Congress is going to just melt away and the Biden administration will just go away if the results are put in question.


The results have been in question since FNC called the AZ race for Biden within 90 seconds of the polls closing there.

What's slowly being revealed is the full extent of the fraud and criminal conspiracy to install an illegitimate President.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37349 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:18 pm to
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You are missing the point. while there is not specific language in article V that speaks to the rescission of ratification by congress, there has been legislation proposed in AZ specifically that would give the state legislature the ultimate authority on who the presidential electors are - even after congressional ratification. specifically to deal with lawfare "running out the clock" on election challenges during the transition. Laws like these create the avenue you say doesn't exist. Again, there may not be a clear constitutional roadmap for overturning a presidential election at this moment, but suggesting there's is no way to get there other than bloodshed is stupid. Its even more stupid to assume that states who uncover incontrovertible fraud will throw their hands up and not take the necessary legislative steps to make it right. If this werent the case, NO ONE would be fighting this fight.


Good luck with that.

I'll leave you all with this maxim: Nothing is going to happen
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Are you allowed to keep money given to you by known associates found guilty of robbing the bank?


“The Contitushun is not about robbin banks!!”
-Indefagitable
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:19 pm to
hes just going to say you are wrong because "overturning a fraudulent presidential election" is not specifically spelled out in the constitution.
Posted by luvdoc
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:19 pm to
Are you really taking the position that if Biden was "elected" as a direct result of proven illegal/fraudulent acts by others, but it cannot be proven that he was personally aware of it, the outcome of the election should/would stand?
Posted by keks tadpole
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Member since Feb 2017
8689 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:21 pm to
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I'll never understand that.
Not even MSNBC would call it.

Compartmentalization of the scheme.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:22 pm to
than say you think nothing will happen instead of wagging your retarded finger at the board and acting like these audits are pointless because the legal system cant find its way thought this. Thats absurd.
Posted by Poohbear8487
Member since May 2015
993 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:22 pm to
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Good luck with that.

I'll leave you all with this maxim: Nothing is going to happen


I think you meant Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming...nothing
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37349 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:23 pm to
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acting like these audits are pointless because the legal system cant find its way thought this.


Oh I absolutely stand by that. I'll just let you guys realize that in real time as it unfolds, I suppose.

My intent in this thread was to discuss avenues of redress outside of the obvious ones--because those (impeachment/25th) are not happening with the current set of facts. I posit that such avenues do not exist--you guys disagree apparently.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:24 pm to
You don’t believe anything untoward happened in the election and you would prefer to live in that cocoon. You are free to do that.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37349 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:26 pm to
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You don’t believe anything untoward happened in the election and you would prefer to live in that cocoon


Totally wrong.

I don't think there is any way to undo it as things stand now.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:26 pm to
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You don’t believe anything untoward happened in the election and you would prefer to live in that cocoon. You are free to do that.
He apparently thinks the entire legal and state legislative systems as well as 75million voters will also live in that cocoon.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:27 pm to
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My intent in this thread was to discuss avenues of redress outside of the obvious ones--because those (impeachment/25th) are not happening



the best that can come of it is a serious overhaul of our election system to make it secure and transparent
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
55991 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:28 pm to
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‘Likely Joe Biden Did Not Win AZ


You don't say
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8428 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:31 pm to
Ok, here goes on a few points

1 absent impeachment really no way to remove biden. AZ sent electors and they voted. AZ controls that process and is really not bound by any other rules. Their giving power to certify to the executive screwed themselves from acting which they probably would not have anyway.

2. Kelly the D who won might be in big trouble. If the audit shows he did not win then he is subject to recall and a new election. That raises the question on all his votes in the senate if they were the deciding votes. All those laws may be illegal and subject to challenge.

Too many moving parts now but fascinating to watch.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77691 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:05 pm to
This is too good to be buried at the bottom of this page.

Stand by.
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