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re: BREAKING: Judge Cannon will delay DOJ's trial against Trump in seized documents case

Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:10 pm to
Why did they postpone? Is it because they don't have shite and need more time to throw shite up against the wall praying it sticks?
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5842 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
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This is an example of why Jack fired up his second case in DC.


Jack is about to be exposed as the bought and paid for litigator he is. In the end Jack shite will be his identity. He will have made millions upon millions, so he will gladly fade away.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464563 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:37 pm to
Yeah everyone knew that first trial date was never going to happen. Not with a case involving classified documents.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Why did they postpone? Is it because they don't have shite and need more time to throw shite up against the wall praying it sticks?

Microcosm of online debate. Dude doesn't even know which side wants a delay.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103093 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:39 pm to
Because the Feds did a classified documents case yet refuse to let the Trump team even see what he is accused of having illegally.

One of the basic foundations of our legal system is being able to see your accusers and the evidence against you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464563 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:40 pm to
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but it is the only one with a shred of legitimacy because taking home classified documents is, on it's face, illegal.


The scarier issues are the charges that don't involve the classified nature of the documents and are obstruction-related.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Yeah everyone knew that first trial date was never going to happen. Not with a case involving classified documents.

She got played by Trump lawyers. They hedged and filed for a delay in DC as well. So if that trial is delayed, what is the basis for either ruling. Reasonable judge would have required the defense to pick one.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9492 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:42 pm to
I think judge cannon would make a great Supreme Court judge
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464563 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:43 pm to
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They hedged and filed for a delay in DC as well.

I doubt any of these criminal prosecutions end up going on their first fixings. Motion practice hasn't even really started on any of them.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:44 pm to
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I think judge cannon would make a great Supreme Court judge

The woman shits a stupid each time she makes an appearance.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:50 pm to
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I doubt any of these criminal prosecutions end up going on their first fixings. Motion practice hasn't even really started on any of them.

That's an assumption, but the basis for a delay resides in her GIVEN belief that the prosecution can not keep up with two simultaneous trials.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:54 pm to
I really think Trumps only out on this case is to get elected and have the AG drop the case. Lying about having the docs was clearly a crime. The other charges may be piling on but lying when subpoenaed about having the docs is not good for Trump.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1008 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:01 pm to
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Why did they postpone? Is it because they don't have shite and need more time to throw shite up against the wall praying it sticks?


The size of the discovery is immense, there isn't a SCIF in Fort Pierce, FL, and not all the defense attorneys yet have security clearance to view the items.

ABC News was reporting more on volume than other sources. At the beginning of the week, when the defense went to the SCIF, the classified materials alone were over 5300 pages. ABC News

Right now, the defense cannot even load the video on their computers. They estimated it would take 10 years to go through the materials. ABC News
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55967 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:12 pm to
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The scarier issues are the charges that don't involve the classified nature of the documents and are obstruction-related.


Agreed. More process crimes.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55967 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:14 pm to
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That's an assumption, but the basis for a delay resides in her GIVEN belief that the prosecution can not keep up with two simultaneous trials.


Considering the DOJ has said they don’t have the resources to investigate Biden, isn’t that an astute assumption?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55967 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Lying about having the docs was clearly a crime.


Which docs, specifically?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:50 pm to
Read the subpoena. He lied when he said he didn't have them and the raid proved that.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1441 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:51 pm to
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It would be essentially deferred until he was no longer president, but picking it up again would be at a future atty general's discretion.
Once the sitting President has pardoned everyone else involved, it would be a seriously difficult case to bring.

No leverage - no case.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1441 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 4:58 pm to
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think the answer is no, and Trump wins, he can always just fire the special prosecutor and/or pardon himself.
Please show where the President can fire a special prosecutor. I understood this was not within his authority. The AG can remove him, but for very limited reasons.

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The only hope the Dems have is to get him convicted before he is becomes the President again.
I think they are running out of time for this to be possible.
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
1145 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 5:01 pm to
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They estimated it would take 10 years to go through the materials.



...of course they did.
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