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Border agents took matters into their own hands to stop TX school killer hiding in closet

Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:34 pm
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'Let’s get this done': Border agents took matters into their own hands to stop Texas school killer hiding in closet

Federal agents ignored orders from local police and went after the shooter who killed 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday, according to reports Friday.

Border Patrol agents took matters into their own hands after waiting roughly 30 minutes to lead a "stack" formation of officers inside Robb Elementary School, federal law enforcement officials told NBC News.

A member of BORTAC, or the Border Patrol Tactical Unit, has been credited with fatally shooting the gunman, identified as 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, who had barricaded himself in a classroom.

An off-duty BORTAC agent was the first to arrive. The agent “basically said let’s get this done" and began planning a way into the room, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection official told the Washington Post. More BORTAC agents arrived around 15 minutes later, and within minutes of getting a key to unlock the door, a variety of law enforcement officers followed a leading BORTAC agent holding a ballistic shield provided by a U.S. marshal.

The same source said the shooter was hiding in a closet at the time and burst out firing at the officials, who returned fire and killed Ramos. One BORTAC agent received minor injuries after his head was grazed by a bullet and his foot struck by shrapnel.

Nineteen children and two teachers were killed. The report noted that agents saw children piled up and huddled together around the room, some of them alive and others dead.

The gunman had at least 15 bullet holes in him after being shot by BORTAC agents and local law enforcement, senior U.S. law enforcement officials told NBC News.

Peter Arredondo, the chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, has been identified as the official who stopped at least 19 officers from barging into the school for up to an hour to stop the shooter. Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Friday that the delay, based on the view that there was not an active threat, was a "wrong decision."
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EXCLUSIVE: Police Initially Lacked Ballistic Shield Needed to Reach Barricaded Texas School Shooter
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:37 pm to
Nothing will happen, qualified immunity and Supreme Court precedent.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32231 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:42 pm to
Come on CA. You know something like that isn't going to get past this board for that long. We've been talking about this for at least a day.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7835 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:43 pm to
Unfortunately honor has gone by the wayside.

Mr. Arredondo should resign and publicly take responsibility for the ineffective leadership leading to this response.

Also, someone needs to look at certain Congress members and ask how badly they wanna define CBP now.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:45 pm to
I was a Border Patrol agent for 10 years. I can absolutely tell you that's the attitude they have- go and get it done. We work alone and solve problems without waiting for backup. I'm proud of them and I'm sure they forced the issue and made that idiot finally cave and allow a response.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:45 pm to
Any LEO's here? Do/should all local police have "ballistic Shields"?

You would think they would, as back when we heard the USPS and cops got armor, tanks, tons of ammo, investigative divisions.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20406 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:47 pm to
A mom took matters into her hands and saved her kids. The police chief who ordered the stand-down needs to kill himself and the entire force needs to be fired.
Posted by Rsande63
Spring,TX
Member since Jan 2016
579 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:51 pm to
BP class # 751, Boulevard

Proud to hear that for them and I've had BORTAC risk a ton to help me and my teammates in a couple bad situations. Not a single question was asked and they didn't look for a reason to say no.

Not a ton of TV shows / movies about them but their training & fortitude is remarkable.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:58 pm to
Yes, there has been many threads. SIAP.

I do think that this article outright factually admitted finally a squad of Border agents after the one guy; and the loon kid was in a closet is new?

Also I didn't want to rush to blame the local cops before it all came out. They didn't have the ballistic shields is at least an explanation even though it was a wrong call.

There was a story of an off duty agent in the barber shop getting a haircut and he took the barbers gun and went to the school. (I think it is the same guy in this article that had his team back up 15 minutes later?

The barbers gun protecting his business is a good story against gun control.

Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 1:02 pm to
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hiding in closet

Ironic he's back in the closet.
Posted by AM
Member since Jan 2019
106 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 1:08 pm to
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We work alone and solve problems
uhm
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