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re: Bongino-worth a listen
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:46 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:46 am to burger bearcat
quote:There was an excellent thread on this before the election board was deleted. There were imbeciles here & in the election thread calling people pussies for not advocating what happened Wednesday.
The dagger right now is Trump's name is going to be tarnished from what happened at the Capitol, and now that momentum and any chance of Trump leading from the outside is not as good.(precisely why violence won't achieve the results we want) There will have to be other new faces to take the torch.
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:48 am to burger bearcat
I hope you’re right. But right now, I think you’re wrong.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:54 am to burger bearcat
quote:
The right resorting to violence right now will never achieve the results we want. We are still in an ideological war,
Ideological war against a communist is a losing situation. The summer was nothing but violence against common folks and authorities but sure let’s hug it out with the people who want to oppress you. Dem AG dropped charges and let the violence continue mayors said no to the national guard and told police to stand down.
No I am not condoning violence but to say we are going to be able to talk it out is foolish.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:07 am to CheEngineer
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Ideological war against a communist is a losing situation. The summer was nothing but violence against common folks and authorities but sure let’s hug it out with the people who want to oppress you. Dem AG dropped charges and let the violence continue mayors said no to the national guard and told police to stand down.
No I am not condoning violence but to say we are going to be able to talk it out is foolish
You don't get it. I am not saying to hug it out with those nazis.
Here are some ideas for starters on how to fight back:
1) Stop wearing masks unless when actually needed around a hospital or in front of old vulnerable people
2) Open up businesses. Stop complying with communists. Tell other businesses to open up.
3) Stop buying products from people trying to destroy you. We are slowly getting there. Just convinced my wife to stop shopping at walmart. target, and amazon. Not there all the way, but trying to do our part
4) Organize. Seriously this can't be said enough. Too many people on the right are sheepish about their beliefs because they feel outnumbered. Get together in actual groups (not social media), talk about solutions in your community and beyond
5) Get involved. Talk to your Sheriff. your mayors. Harass your congressman of they aren't doing their job and praise them when they are.
6) Put your money and your time where your mouth is. If there are worthy causes or businesses to spend at, go there. Continue to improve your community and show people what conservative values are.I have volunteered with Habitat for Humanity a bunch, and believe or not the majority of the volunteers are other evil white Christian men helping out mostly minority often single mothers. We work side by side with the future home owners and I have had some opportunities to insert ever so subtlety conservative ideas that they never thought about, where I had them agreeing and not even realizing they were agreeing with a conservative platform.
7) Teach your kids. I know tons of Republican voters who forgot to instill these ideas in their kids. Meanwhile they are paying their tuition while they are hanging a Che flag in their dorm.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:10 am to burger bearcat
Until conservatives figure out how to overcome overwhelming media bias (major networks, cable news, social media) and constant barrage of negative portrayals, conservatives will never be successful in convincing a majority again.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:13 am to burger bearcat
quote:
. The left has all the levers of power
Maybe on the surface. But not behind the scenes on the real lever of power. That is where the Trump card lies. The Left has the force. Trump and company have the power.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:21 am to burger bearcat
You want to change minds, get prices to the point that it impacts the liberal, middle class women's lifestyle. Make that routine trip to the beauty parlor to hide those grey roots unaffordable. Make the mimosa brunch to expensive. They are shallow women and you have to get their attention through their lifestyle.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:23 am to Deplorableinohio
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Until conservatives figure out how to overcome overwhelming media bias (major networks, cable news, social media) and constant barrage of negative portrayals, conservatives will never be successful in convincing a majority again.
I know people think this bullshite but we were winning in some ways this summer. The CNN meme "peaceful but fiery" is small example. Regular democrat centrists see this stuff and agree and see throughbthe media when they go over the top. Most normies and centrists don't want violence, and whoever starts engaging in it will eventually lose public appeal.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:24 am to mauser
quote:
ou want to change minds, get prices to the point that it impacts the liberal, middle class women's lifestyle. Make that routine trip to the beauty parlor to hide those grey roots unaffordable. Make the mimosa brunch to expensive. They are shallow women and you have to get their attention through their lifestyle.
Agreed on this
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:36 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
It just takes a larger VOCAL majority to win.
Actually it takes a loud minority to win. Would you rather cook two dinners tonight or just settle for the vegetarian option that Karen requested because she won't eat what you make the family?
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:38 am to burger bearcat
quote:What happened at the capital was just the pimple on the boil. You want to dismiss it as a one time thing. It's not. There's lot of you who think that's the way you can get what you want.
The dagger right now is Trump's name is going to be tarnished from what happened at the Capitol
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:43 am to burger bearcat
quote:
We are still in an ideological war, but a violent war will not end well for conservatives. At least not right now. The left has all the levers of power, and most importantly they also have public opinion on their side currently
I said as much in an OP several days ago and was skewered. Being patient and wise is not rolling over. I’ve always said and believed we conservative patriots will know when the appropriate time comes we will act.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:54 am to p&g
quote:It's not about enthusiasm. The number one driver is fear. Biden got half his votes from fear of Trump. How many votes did Trump get because of fear of Harris?
I never believe the enthusiasm of Biden was there.... certainly not at the tune of 81.2 million.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:00 am to markinkaty
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you believe those polls that the left makes. it's really 65-35 America first. The tail has been wagging the dog by fixing elections for a while now.
If this is actually true you would see the effects of demographic flows wouldn't you? Especially in 2022.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:28 am to texridder
What exactly has trump done in past four years to make any American have fear?
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:28 am to burger bearcat
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The left has us beat somewhere between about 53 to 47 - at the moment in public opinion.
says who??
The polls???
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:17 pm to wutangfinancial
They're just going to vote harvest from here on out. Demographics won't matter.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 1:08 pm to markinkaty
Ya but you can't do that to the degree needed to win elections if your population is declining rapidly. That's what I was trying to say it's not a long term strategy.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 1:29 pm to burger bearcat
BLM and Antifa have been murdering civilians and cops all last summer long, and no one raised a peep about it.
1 unarmed patriot gets murdered by a cop, another cop dies ( under conflicting reports why ) and 3 others die of ' medical issues ' ???
That's 2 murders, the way I see it. At most. That's not even a good start to a Friday night in Chicago.
1 unarmed patriot gets murdered by a cop, another cop dies ( under conflicting reports why ) and 3 others die of ' medical issues ' ???
That's 2 murders, the way I see it. At most. That's not even a good start to a Friday night in Chicago.
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