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Birx completely changed her stats/projections between Friday and Sunday

Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:50 pm
On Sunday she went along with Fauci's doomsday 100,000 to 200,000 possible deaths.

On Friday Birx said, "In no country to date have we seen an attack rate over one in a thousand."

Do the math - 1 per 1000 would equal 350,000 cases in the US.

100,000 US deaths would be a 28.5% death rate of confirmed COVID cases, 200,000 would be a 57% death rate.

She seemed reluctant to take the podium on Sunday. I can see why.

Birx vid - statement on Friday (at about 1:00) -

LINK
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20995 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:53 pm to
They're all pretty much full of shite.

Just like when the egg yolk was terrible for you...then they came back and rescinded that.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:54 pm to
The Feds commissioned various research groups to run models on 15 different scenarios. The tune changed when those results came in.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:56 pm to
Link?
Posted by kbmaverick
Baton Rouge, Maui and Toledo Bend
Member since Nov 2009
923 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

The Feds commissioned various research groups to run models on 15 different scenarios


And they are all wrong because the model is shite in equals shite out.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7547 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

The Feds commissioned various research groups to run models on 15 different scenarios. The tune changed when those results came in.



All based on incomplete data.

Tell me what it does when you only sample people with 103 degree fever for testing? (Policy in EBR). Answer: you have a skewed rate of positives per capita.

Tell me what it does when China doesn’t count asymptomatic positives in their count? It means their data on their rates are complete bullshite.

The best data we have is the pietri dish cruise ship. Even that is biased toward an older population who were on the cruise ship.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:03 pm to
Birx said on Sunday that they relied IHME model. IHME is the group that Bill Gates funded, and headed by a former WHO official, Chris Murray. Murray was chsen by Gates to head the IHME.


LINK
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31495 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:07 pm to
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Just like when the egg yolk was terrible for you...then they came back and rescinded that.


I follow nutrition epidemiology more closely than anything, and its (and corrupt government policy re same) abject failure has turned a few leftist-statists into something more akin to small-government pseudo-libertarians.

See, also, climate change models (well, w that, I haven't seen many true believers convert yet).
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 8:07 pm
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5365 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

On Sunday she went along with Fauci's doomsday 100,000 to 200,000 possible deaths.

On Friday Birx said, "In no country to date have we seen an attack rate over one in a thousand."


She went on to explain that it could be because we’ve only tested the tip of the iceberg with respect to total cases.

I’m guessing she thinks there will be more confirmed cases as we continue to improve testing capabilities.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:34 pm to
And guess what!

THEY WILL frickING GET AWAY WITH IT

Because all they have to say is “well the measures worked” if not for that millions would be dead

Trump knows it’s a legit virus but he knows it’s bullshite as far as the magnitude in which it’s being portrayed. He has no choice but the play the game.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

I’m guessing she thinks there will be more confirmed cases as we continue to improve testing capabilities.

That's about as logical as it gets
We test more than anywhere else
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5365 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:45 pm to
quote:


Because all they have to say is “well the measures worked” if not for that millions would be dead

Trump knows it’s a legit virus but he knows it’s bull shite as far as the magnitude in which it’s being portrayed. He has no choice but the play the game.


Trump was all over that in Sunday briefing. He kept talking about what could of been 2.2 mm deaths if not for his administration’s actions. He’s definitely working it.

Will be interesting to see how he plays it when the media pivots to the economy after the virus slows down.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:52 pm to
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She went on to explain that it could be because we’ve only tested the tip of the iceberg with respect to total cases.

C'mon man.

If 50% of all Americans had the virus, then the death rate would have to be more than the highest know current attack rate.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:56 pm to
The word expert is a misnomer for "experts." They're opinionators with credentials is all.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5365 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

If 50% of all Americans had the virus


You think 50% of Americans had the virus?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

You think 50% of Americans had the virus?

I think you are playing silly word games - back to the topic...


Birx completely changed her stats/projections between Friday and Sunday

On Sunday she went along with Fauci's doomsday 100,000 to 200,000 possible deaths.

On Friday Birx said, "In no country to date have we seen an attack rate over one in a thousand."

Do the math - 1 per 1000 would equal 350,000 cases in the US.

100,000 US deaths would be a 28.5% death rate of confirmed COVID cases, 200,000 would be a 57% death rate.

She seemed reluctant to take the podium on Sunday. I can see why.

Birx vid - statement on Friday (at about 1:00) -

LINK
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:19 pm to
I’d put just as much stock in her reading my palm or telling me where the S&P is going to be in two weeks. It’s ridiculous to even make a projection.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

On Sunday she went along with Fauci's doomsday 100,000 to 200,000 possible deaths.



If you watch the video of the interview he was being asked if 100,000 was probable and he made it clear he did not think it was probable but conceded it was possible.

The worst thing was the interviewer seemed to have one objective, try to get him to say something anti Trump which Fauci did a good job dodging, when that failed they were trying to pin him down on death projections and completely misconstrued what he said.

CNN sucks donkey balls

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

If you watch the video of the interview he was being asked if 100,000 was probable and he made it clear he did not think it was probable but conceded it was possible.
On Friday, Birx clearly inferred that 100,000 deaths was mathematically absurd.

On Sunday, Birx went along with 100,000, even 200,000 is possible.

Someone got to her. Biggest flip-flop I've seen in a while.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Just like when the egg yolk was terrible for you...then they came back and rescinded that.


My grandma loved eating bacon and eggs for breakfast most mornings. She lived to be 100. When they claimed "eggs are bad for you", she said they were full of nonsense. She had about a 3rd grade education. I guess a 3rd grade education in the early 1920s is better than some PHDs in the 1970s/80s.
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