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Bigger picture- election audits
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:54 pm
I’ve been following this but I don’t fully understand the end game. Is there a possibility DJT will be President when the dust settles? Ockams razor says no. But I want to believe
Is this all just to protect future elections?
If It is possible to get DJT back in. What are the logistics? Does all Xidens EO’s go away? Does Trump’s term start from Jan or from when he’s reinstated?
To me it seems like you can’t undo what’s done. Like in baseball. If an ump calls a fair ball foul, you can’t go back redo it
Obligatory, explain this to me like I’m 5
Is this all just to protect future elections?
If It is possible to get DJT back in. What are the logistics? Does all Xidens EO’s go away? Does Trump’s term start from Jan or from when he’s reinstated?
To me it seems like you can’t undo what’s done. Like in baseball. If an ump calls a fair ball foul, you can’t go back redo it
Obligatory, explain this to me like I’m 5
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:56 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
Biden could get on stage and admit he stole it and it still wouldn’t put Trump back in. There is zero percent chance of that happening.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:58 pm to unotiger21
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There is zero percent chance of that happening.
I tend to agree with this. So what is the point?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:59 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
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So what is the point?
Our children.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:02 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
quote:I agree with it. 0% chance the election gets overturned.
I tend to agree with this. So what is the point?
But the point is to have confidence in the result--what ever the result is. The more people try to stop the audits, the more suspicious it becomes.
Secondly, if the audits do find issues... that simply proves the need to cure the problems-- and fast. Democrats have for decades denied voter fraud even exists (unless they lose!). Now suddenly they are afraid to prove it. It's worth getting to the bottom of things.
In short... the future results are more important here. A provable fraud will (hopefully?) improve how elections are conducted going forward. Needs to happen. A pre-employment pizz test has better custody controls than our election ballots. That needs to change. Fast.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:02 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
Where this would really come into play is with the senator elections. If the states decert the dem senators that were fraudulently elected and then seat republican senators, that shifts the balance of power in the senate back to 100% republican control ensuring gridlock for any legislation. Then, if Biden tries the EO path, then the republicans can tie those up in the courts the same way they did to Trump.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:02 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
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There is zero percent chance of that happening.
I tend to agree with this. So what is the point?
The other thing you mentioned, about future elections. Trump himself even stated that was a one of his primary goals.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:06 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
I'll guess they will NEVER allow us to know the truth and admit there was fraud. If we did find this out, without a doubt of course, I think people would want our true president to be in office. AND we know they wouldn't allow and then the civil war would begin. They will never admit the truth even when we already know. They are afraid of what could happen "by the people".
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:07 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
Elections do get overturned. Why wouldn't it if it is found to be illegitimate?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:07 pm to davyjones
Uh, if the election was hacked/changed whatever, I agree Trump is out but I would hope we find out how etc
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:08 pm to scurvydawg
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Where this would really come into play is with the senator elections
So it’s like raising a retarded kid? I need to start celebrating all the small victories.
I want the BIG prize and that’s DJT in charge for another 4 years.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:09 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
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To me it seems like you can’t undo what’s done. Like in baseball. If an ump calls a fair ball foul, you can’t go back redo it
This is the election of the most powerful office in the world. Not some baseball game. The effects of an election have direct consequences on millions of lives and livelihoods. A missed call in a baseball game does not.
If the audits show that enough ballots were forged/incorrectly adjudicated/fabricated/illegal that would change the state electors vote from Biden to Trump, tell me why Biden should remain in office? There is no, "Oh damn, the election was a farce, but we have to stick to the incorrect results. Trust us it wont happen again" If that happens then we have lost America as we have known it. That right there could be the spark that ignites another civil war.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:12 pm to AUX3
Exactly what I meant.....finding out as much as possible as to the who, what, when, where, how, etc, so as to better know in the future what to be looking for. That would make it exponentially more difficult for them to be as successful next time.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:13 pm to DandA
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tell me why Biden should remain in office?
He should not. But realistically, do you see Trump actually being installed as President? I don’t.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:18 pm to DandA
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Not some baseball game
The analogy is to say that everything that happened after the F up is undoable… not to make light of the situation
You can’t just erase 5 months of EO’s, deals made, etc.. just like in baseball you can’t automatically assume that the runner on 3rd would have scored on a base hit if the call was correctly made from the start
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:20 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
If it's found to be a massive scam, I can see Biden administration getting taken down. I honestly expect worse and it could have severe consequences. We will have to wait and see.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:22 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
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The analogy is to say that everything that happened after the F up is undoable… not to make light of the situation
You can’t just erase 5 months of EO’s, deals made, etc.. just like in baseball you can’t automatically assume that the runner on 3rd would have scored on a base hit if the call was correctly made from the start
This is exactly why the founders put in the 2nd Amendment. If fraud is proven, then this is TYRANNY of the highest order.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:22 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
I don’t think the audits are the ultimate “big picture”. They seem to be only a part of the story. Was COVID released by a foreign state to influence the election? Was there subversion of information by American actors to influence the election? We’re election laws illegally changed in order to affect the election?
If the answer to all of those combine to a conglomerative YES, then we have sedition and treason. If that’s the case, then we are already in a state of war.
All that said, I agree that there is no clear path to bring Trump back
If the answer to all of those combine to a conglomerative YES, then we have sedition and treason. If that’s the case, then we are already in a state of war.
All that said, I agree that there is no clear path to bring Trump back
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:25 pm to ds_engineer
Yeah that's what I mean by severe consequences. If it comes out all of this was to gain power, the right won't take that shite. Also, it shows they don't have 80 mil. They'd be fricked, which we all know the wackos are the minority. Ppl are already fed up, the dems are destroying their party, IMO.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:25 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
To save the republic from voter fraud. PERIOD
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