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Biden this week: defund police, end all charter schools, citizen. for all DACA, Med.ForAll

Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:31 pm
Literally in just one week... very moderate candidate here.

Biden has stated he would defund the police, end all charter schools, give 11 million illegal immigrants citizenship (lol at them still using 11 mill it was that in 2012), and a Medicare For All plan with Bernies camp.

ETA he just also said he would rescind exemption of Little Sisters of the Poor.

This doesn't include his most recent stances/comments:

Free healthcare to all illegals
Gun confiscation
Green New Deal
Increasing taxes



quote:

BREAKING: Biden immigration plan grants citizenship to 11 million illegal immigrants washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/…

LINK

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Biden-Sanders proposal calls for a Medicare-for-All program, signaling left shift in campaign |

LINK
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 5:50 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49376 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:33 pm to
I'm kinda wondering if Trump is just hanging back letting Biden go super left. The Bolsheviks in his party are doing a hell of a job pulling him that way and that will be easier to beat.

If Trump had started in hammer and tong on Biden a month ago he wasn't nearly as radical and would not have been able to move left.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:34 pm to
The anti trump suburban republicans on this board- tejashorn, Mickey, etc- are delusional that biden will fight the left of his party
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:35 pm to
Dementia Joe is a puppet for the global marxists. Anyone that supports him is a moron of the highest order.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

If Trump had started in hammer and tong on Biden a month ago he wasn't nearly as radical and would not have been able to move left.


I disagree.

Covid and riots hurt trump greatly and he still hasn't formulated a coherent message. Something that's at least consistent.

His teeets won't move the needle, going on Hannity, won't move the needle, he has hardly any allies and the media won't give him an inch.

His only option is to get in front the people. If he can't do big rallies then frick it do small ones with hundreds of people. 14 million people streamed his tiny Tulsa rally.

He needs that and only that. Hit Biden and be campaign mode trump that won 2016.

Time is running out.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

he anti trump suburban republicans on this board- tejashorn, Mickey, etc- are delusional that biden will fight the left of his party


I genuinely think they hate trump so much they don't give a shite about Biden's policies. I'm speaking broadly of suburban folk in general. They will be appalled at what takes place in their life just to get a scalp.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:39 pm to
Heard he also came out with some kind of HUD plan designed to end suburbs? Anyone know if that’s valid or just hearsay?

Not like the rest of the plan isn’t terrifying enough already.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Time is running out.



No it isn't. The sham Biden lead have been halved already. Factor in the at least 3% lying to pollsters and it is even.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5271 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Time is running out.


Dude. It’s the beginning of July.
Election is 120 days away.
That’s several lifetimes in political land.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73789 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:43 pm to
quote:


Time is running out.





How the frick is time running out?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:44 pm to
It’s true
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112668 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:46 pm to
Mickey and his boyfriend are too busy getting back at the mean normies who made school a rough experience to care about policy
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:47 pm to
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Dude. It’s the beginning of July.
Election is 120 days away.
That’s several lifetimes in political land.



Next week we are midway through July. That's 3.5 months away. By this point in 2016 trump had done 25 rallies. After this Saturday he's at 3 (Tulsa, SD, NH).

He's struggling to get his message out.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5271 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Next week we are midway through July. That's 3.5 months away. By this point in 2016 trump had done 25 rallies. After this Saturday he's at 3 (Tulsa, SD, NH).


He’s also, you know, running a country and all.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:16 pm to
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He’s also, you know, running a country and all.



He has dragon energy you're telling me he can't do 1 to 2 rallies each week? Or weekend. Skip golf...
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Biden-Sanders proposal calls for a Medicare-for-All program, signaling left shift in campaign |
Complete out-and-out Bullshite.

This is from the article:
quote:

Among the recommendations is one calling for "achieving universal, affordable, quality health care," which closely mirror Sanders' controversial "Medicare-for-All" program. The [Sanders} program, if enacted, would have rendered most private insurance in the United States illegal and would have effectively compelled Americans to enroll in government insurance.
The article contends that Biden would make private insurance illegal and compel enrollment in government insurance.

The the article then quotes Biden's proposed policy from his website:
quote:

"Whether you’re covered through your employer, buying your insurance on your own, or going without coverage altogether, the Biden Plan will give you the choice to purchase a public health insurance option like Medicare," the site says.

I was just checking to see if you baws realized that this fake-news horseshite is being pushed out by conservative propaganda sites like Just the News, among others. Or does it just fly over your heads?

Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:32 pm to
Everyone knows Biden is a pandering piece of shite. He says whatever the crowd wants him to say that day. He has no plans. He is a puppet of the globalists, so he has no opinions or convictions
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4934 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:33 pm to
How can any Self-respecting, straight, white, wage earning male support Biden based on these policies his puppet masters have him pushing?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

texridder
Why are you refuting his quotes by referencing the biden campaign website? As if that is credible?

Dude....the public option BY DESIGN is meant to transition everyone to a government plan. It just does it slower than medicare for all. The people who invented the plan have said as much.

Here is kristen gillibrand:

quote:

The quickest way you get [to single-payer] is you create competition with the insurers. God bless the insurers, if they want to compete, they can certainly try, but they've never put people over their profits, and I doubt they ever will. So what will happen is people will choose Medicare, you will transition, we will get to Medicare for all, and then your step to single-payer is so short.


Here is pete buttiegeg


quote:

You take something like Medicare, a flavor of that, you make it available on the exchanges, people can buy in. And then if people like us are right, that that will be not only a more inclusive plan, but a more efficient plan than any of the corporate answers out there, then it will be a very natural glide path to the single-payer environment.


The shared goal is government-run, single-payer healthcare, which means the elimination of private insurance. The debate among Democrats is how fast to get there, and with how much policy misdirection.


Here is why a public option cannot coexist with our private system

quote:

a public option would have several unfair advantages over private insurers. For starters, it wouldn't have to cover its costs. It could offer coverage at cut-rate prices and count on the federal Treasury to fill in the gaps if payouts to providers exceed the premiums it takes in.

Second, a public option would have the ability to dictate the prices it's willing to pay for care. Doctors and hospitals would have little choice but to accept the government's offer.

Most public option plans envision paying healthcare providers about what Medicare pays them. Doctors currently receive 25 percent less from Medicare than from people with private coverage.

The freedom to lose money and the ability to dictate reimbursement rates would give the public option an artificially low cost structure. So it'd be able to underprice private plans -- and steal their customers. One study found that a public option would cause 70 percent of people to drop their private coverage. Another study found that a national public option would enroll over 40 million people in its first year alone.

That would set the stage for private insurance's destruction. As providers began treating more and more low-paying public option patients, they'd likely raise prices for the privately insured to compensate. Insurers would pass those costs onto their customers in the form of higher premiums. That would push yet more people into the public option. And the cycle would repeat.

Eventually, there'd be no one left for private insurers to cover. So they'd go out of business. One study found that 20 percent of state marketplaces would not have a private insurance option within eight years of a public option taking effect.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:44 pm to
Biden is like Sanders when he handed over the mic to those protesters, just going through the motions and agreeing with whatever the radicals want
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