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re: Biden Admin Tells Supreme Court Judges Cannot Strike Down Agency Decisions in Immigration
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:13 am to squid_hunt
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:13 am to squid_hunt
Like I said, who is going to enforce a courts ruling against this administration?
The right answer is no one…
The right answer is no one…
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:20 am to Placekicker
quote:
Now it’s our job to say what the law is, not whether or not it can be possibly implemented or whether there are difficulties there,” Chief Justice John Roberts said to U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar
Last I checked, the law says that entering the country illegally is a fricking CRIME. Therefore, every person who unlawfully crosses the border is a CRIMINAL.
I fail to grasp how this is difficult to understand.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:26 am to themunch
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No chance Fats
Then it's up to the people to vote them out.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:30 am to The Maj
quote:
The right answer is no one…
Ultimately We the People.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:33 am to The Maj
Law professors heads would have exploded is trump administration argued this view 
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:05 pm to Placekicker
The federal government does not have the power to foist upon the states anything and anyone it wants - we are a republic of states, not a nation with subordinate territories.
Refer to Federalist No2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence
"With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people -- a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.
"This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was
the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren,
united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous,
and alien sovereignties."
A united people, connected, with many similar interests, that sought a better future for the nation, and many actually fought to gain independence for the nation. We should never be split apart into a number of different sects, factions, or alien sovereignties, but current immigration policies are doing that.
"A strong sense of the value and blessings of union induced the people, at a very early period, to
institute a federal government to preserve and perpetuate it...."
Ok, so we didn't institute our federal government so it could rule over us, and disregard the sanctity of this union, but to preserve and perpetuate this union.
"It is worthy of remark that not only the first, but every succeeding Congress, as well as the late
convention, have invariably joined with the people in thinking that the prosperity of America
depended on its Union...."
So the idea of doing things that would weaken the union and the bond between people and regions, is not one that was established with the nation's birth.
"They who promote the idea of substituting a number of distinct confederacies in the room of the plan of the convention, seem clearly to foresee that the rejection of it would put the continuance of the Union in the utmost jeopardy. That certainly would be the case, and I sincerely wish that it may be as clearly foreseen
by every good citizen, that whenever the dissolution of the Union arrives, America will have reason to exclaim, in the words of the poet: "FAREWELL! A LONG FAREWELL TO ALL MY GREATNESS.""
If you break up the unity within the union, within this republic of states, you will destroy the nation.
The Anti-Federalists saw that overreach could result from how the Constitution was assembled. This is why we got the Bill of Rights, which included the 9th and 10th amendments:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The People and States wrote and approved of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These items created our government. At no time did the People or States sanction activity that would weaken our union, certainly not with any intention of doing so. From Concord to the Convention to the debates between Federalists and Anti-Federalists, no American sought to sanction activity that would weaken the union or introduce factions that would not have the same affection for this land, the people, and freedom.
The strength of our union comes from the following - It was sameness in purpose, most importantly, that brought people together to fight for freedom and to fight to retain freedom.
Current immigration policies and open border practices do not strengthen the union and erode the sameness of purpose, and split the nation into areas with too much heterogeneity, as we saw in how Martha's Vineyard reacted to just 50 immigrants.
Nothing in the founding of the nation suggests the current immigration approach is how things were intended to operate, and the Anti-Federalists lobbied to make sure we got the 9th and 10th amendments to preclude this sort of overreach.
It's time for the courts to grow a spine and stand up for these items in the Bill of Rights. They are not just window dressing.
And the Biden administration continues to show that it is the most lawless and un-American group in our history. They are attempting a controlled demolition of our nation.
Refer to Federalist No2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence
"With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people -- a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.
"This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was
the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren,
united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous,
and alien sovereignties."
A united people, connected, with many similar interests, that sought a better future for the nation, and many actually fought to gain independence for the nation. We should never be split apart into a number of different sects, factions, or alien sovereignties, but current immigration policies are doing that.
"A strong sense of the value and blessings of union induced the people, at a very early period, to
institute a federal government to preserve and perpetuate it...."
Ok, so we didn't institute our federal government so it could rule over us, and disregard the sanctity of this union, but to preserve and perpetuate this union.
"It is worthy of remark that not only the first, but every succeeding Congress, as well as the late
convention, have invariably joined with the people in thinking that the prosperity of America
depended on its Union...."
So the idea of doing things that would weaken the union and the bond between people and regions, is not one that was established with the nation's birth.
"They who promote the idea of substituting a number of distinct confederacies in the room of the plan of the convention, seem clearly to foresee that the rejection of it would put the continuance of the Union in the utmost jeopardy. That certainly would be the case, and I sincerely wish that it may be as clearly foreseen
by every good citizen, that whenever the dissolution of the Union arrives, America will have reason to exclaim, in the words of the poet: "FAREWELL! A LONG FAREWELL TO ALL MY GREATNESS.""
If you break up the unity within the union, within this republic of states, you will destroy the nation.
The Anti-Federalists saw that overreach could result from how the Constitution was assembled. This is why we got the Bill of Rights, which included the 9th and 10th amendments:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The People and States wrote and approved of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These items created our government. At no time did the People or States sanction activity that would weaken our union, certainly not with any intention of doing so. From Concord to the Convention to the debates between Federalists and Anti-Federalists, no American sought to sanction activity that would weaken the union or introduce factions that would not have the same affection for this land, the people, and freedom.
The strength of our union comes from the following - It was sameness in purpose, most importantly, that brought people together to fight for freedom and to fight to retain freedom.
Current immigration policies and open border practices do not strengthen the union and erode the sameness of purpose, and split the nation into areas with too much heterogeneity, as we saw in how Martha's Vineyard reacted to just 50 immigrants.
Nothing in the founding of the nation suggests the current immigration approach is how things were intended to operate, and the Anti-Federalists lobbied to make sure we got the 9th and 10th amendments to preclude this sort of overreach.
It's time for the courts to grow a spine and stand up for these items in the Bill of Rights. They are not just window dressing.
And the Biden administration continues to show that it is the most lawless and un-American group in our history. They are attempting a controlled demolition of our nation.
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