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re: Barron should SKIP his HS graduation & be in court with his pops in a sign of solidarity
Posted on 4/16/24 at 7:55 am to OzonaOkapi
Posted on 4/16/24 at 7:55 am to OzonaOkapi
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So you think that the court should treat some Defendants differently than others with regard to disappearing from their trials.
This kind of request is a common one in almost every court in America, so long as the Defendant isn't incarcerated. The request should be granted as a matter of right. It's punitive and done specifically because the judge hates Trump. And you're too much of a chickenshit to admit you believe in a two-tiered justice system because Orange Man Bad.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 7:59 am to OzonaOkapi
Who’s alter is this “new poster”
I’m going with PedoHank
I’m going with PedoHank
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:00 am to OzonaOkapi
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you are conflating separate and distinct issues.
No, I simply answered your question. There are different rules for different defendants/charges.
Now, let me ask you one. Do you think if this judge was presiding over a Hillary Clinton / NDA case and Chelsea was getting married in May there wouldn't be something worked out by the defense and judge? The judge would have no latitude a month out?
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:03 am to Covingtontiger77
You people are ridiculous.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:04 am to auisssa
quote:In that context, it is entirely possible (perhaps even probable) that the prosecutor in New York would decline to register an objection to the defendant’s request to be absent from court on that one day.
Do you think if this judge was presiding over a Hillary Clinton / NDA case and Chelsea was getting married in May there wouldn't be something worked out by the defense and judge? The judge would have no latitude a month out?
Read the procedural rule. Absent such an objection, the judge would obviously have that “latitude” and would probably grant the request.
If that assessment is accurate, does it indicate some level of bias in the DA? sure.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 8:11 am
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:10 am to Bourre
quote:
Who’s alter is this “new poster”
I’m going with PedoHank
Yep.
I would bet so, it fits his SN profile.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 8:10 am
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:12 am to Covingtontiger77
I’m still trying to get my mind around how a judge can force a defendant with adequate counsel into the court room.
In this day and age I didn’t think that was a thing anymore.
In this day and age I didn’t think that was a thing anymore.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:23 am to OzonaOkapi
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In that context, it is entirely possible (perhaps even probable) that the prosecutor in New York would decline to register an objection to the defendant’s request to be absent from court on that one day.
So why would the prosecutor in this case register an objection? Bias? Election interference?
Tomato tomato?
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:27 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:One premise of the jury system (for centuries) is that the jury gets to assess the demeanor of a defendant as evidence is being presented.
I’m still trying to get my mind around how a judge can force a defendant with adequate counsel into the court room.
If the defendant can skip trial, the jury is deprived of that opportunity.
SHOULD that be the rule? You are certainly free to argue that point, but it IS the rule.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:32 am to auisssa
quote:Bias against or simple dislike for DJT, as I said in the post to which you replied.
So why would the prosecutor in this case register an objection?
The point is that, on the issue of a one-day absence from court, the villain is the DA, not the judge. The judge has no discretion under the applicable procedural rule.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:34 am to Covingtontiger77
The last thing Barron should do is willingly insert himself into the meatgrinder more than he already is by virtue of being Trump's son.
Its no world for an 18 year old to live their life in.
Its no world for an 18 year old to live their life in.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:36 am to OzonaOkapi
Judge can delay the trial a day. Happens all the time.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:45 am to auisssa
quote:Yes. Everyone understands that he has the authority/discretion to grant a one-day recess (as opposed to allowing a defendant to absent himself from ongoing proceedings).
Judge can delay the trial a day. Happens all the time.
It has also been explained (with links) that the judge has said he may well do so, if the trial is on-schedule by the day in question.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:00 am to OzonaOkapi
That’s interesting because a couple of trials wherein I testified as an expert witness (great PT gov with awesome billable rates) the defendant was on Skype (or some other video call service) and not present every day even remotely.
That was in the US Southern District and I haven’t done it for a couple years.
That was in the US Southern District and I haven’t done it for a couple years.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:11 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
1. He was the president - he has earned the right to do whatever he wants
2. He Trump - he has earned the right to do what ever he wants
2. He Trump - he has earned the right to do what ever he wants
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:12 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:Was this a civil or criminal case? Was the defendant an individual or an organization/corporation?
That’s interesting because a couple of trials wherein I testified as an expert witness (great PT gov with awesome billable rates) the defendant was on Skype (or some other video call service) and not present every day even remotely. That was in the US Southern District and I haven’t done it for a couple years.
Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 43 is different from the NY Rule in a number of important ways
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(a) When Required. Unless this rule, Rule 5, or Rule 10 provides otherwise, the defendant must be present at: (1) the initial appearance, the initial arraignment, and the plea; (2) every trial stage, including jury impanelment and the return of the verdict; and (3) sentencing.
(b) When Not Required. A defendant need not be present under any of the following circumstances: (1) Organizational Defendant. The defendant is an organization represented by counsel who is present. (2) Misdemeanor Offense. The offense is punishable by fine or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, and with the defendant's written consent, the court permits arraignment, plea, trial, and sentencing to occur by video teleconferencing or in the defendant's absence. (3) Conference or Hearing on a Legal Question. The proceeding involves only a conference or hearing on a question of law. (4) Sentence Correction. The proceeding involves the correction or reduction of sentence under Rule 35 or 18 U.S.C. §3582 (c).
(c) Waiving Continued Presence. (1) In General. A defendant who was initially present at trial, or who had pleaded guilty or nolo contendere, waives the right to be present under the following circumstances: (A) when the defendant is voluntarily absent after the trial has begun, regardless of whether the court informed the defendant of an obligation to remain during trial; (B) in a noncapital case, when the defendant is voluntarily absent during sentencing; or (C) when the court warns the defendant that it will remove the defendant from the courtroom for disruptive behavior, but the defendant persists in conduct that justifies removal from the courtroom. (2) Waiver's Effect. If the defendant waives the right to be present, the trial may proceed to completion, including the verdict's return and sentencing, during the defendant's absence.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:45 am to OzonaOkapi
The most recent was a civil $184mm suit.
The other was criminal. I wasn’t arguing a point and don’t pay that much attention to the stuff outside what I’m asked to testify about. The different rules for different levels is interesting.
The other was criminal. I wasn’t arguing a point and don’t pay that much attention to the stuff outside what I’m asked to testify about. The different rules for different levels is interesting.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:08 am to Covingtontiger77
Straight from the narcissist handbook to blame the judge because you’re on trial during your son’s graduation
Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:29 am to Covingtontiger77
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Barron should SKIP his HS graduation & be in court with his pops in a sign of solidarity
Trump should defy the Judge, get arrested. Would win in a landslide!!
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