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re: Barr eviscerated the beautiful orange man.

Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3806 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:05 pm to
Barr is and will always be a Bush Republican.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26919 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:08 pm to
This is my opinion. Barr is a swamp Republican. His first allegiance is to the swamp. Protect the systems in place. His second allegiance is to the Republicans. If he can bring down Hillary Clinton/Joe Biden/Barack Obama, etc, without implicating the Republican leadership, he will. I think the Republican leadership wanted Trump to lose in 2020 as much as Biden did in his more lucid moments.

Corruption is the oil that keeps the DC machine running. I think the Sussman trial is a perfect example. You have someone who is guilty, but they get put through a trial where there is ZERO chance that they will be convicted. That's how it works.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29472 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Anyone who cannot tell a compelling story when presenting only the facts favorable to his own side? That person should get out of the business.

That documentary is a lot like a DA seeking an indictment. If he cannot get the Grand Jury to do what he wants, he should consider a career teaching typewriter maintenance at the Rocco Globbo School for Women.

Would the story survive scrutiny in an adversarial proceeding? We will probably never know.


I'm not an attorney but I believe a better analogy would be reasonable suspicion / probable cause.

And we may see it in such a setting one day. Maybe not the documentary itself but the TTV data. Kari Lake is a pretty big proponent of this film, and generally seems to believe the election was stolen, so I would imagine we get more action out of this in AZ once she gets elected governor there this fall (She is the betting favorite for that out of the whole field right now).
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62023 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:11 pm to
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If we are talking about a recording of someone's statement, WTF difference does it make whether it was broadcast on OAN, CNN or via ansible?


It doesn’t.

Of course that doesn’t address his point at all.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:12 pm to
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The other was jailed by President Obama for campaign contributions (Donating to much to one person).

How is that fact supposed to counter the American politicos group that made the J6 hearing?

If anything, it would bring into question D'Souza's objectivity in making Mules- not to mention the fact that Trump pardoned D'Souza for campaign contribution violation.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62023 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Would the story survive scrutiny in an adversarial proceeding? We will probably never know.


Exactly. It’s people like you that (and Barr) that push against that happening.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71341 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Barr sounds reasonable


From Waco till today he is the same. Swamp
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75228 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Barr is a swamp Republican. His first allegiance is to the swamp. Protect the systems in place.

Why would he go out on a limb to say it's his opinion that HRC was guilty of sedition?
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7202 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Why would he go out on a limb to say it's his opinion that HRC was guilty of sedition?


Barr said this in a Glenn Beck interview. Nowhere else. If he says the same to MSM outlets, then I might change my mind. Otherwise, Barr is no different than other swampers who will say anything to pander to a particular audience, because they know no one will hold them account for inconsistencies, illogic, and outright lies.
Posted by themunch
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71341 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:23 pm to
I believe his statements were similar to that tall freak from the FBI. It is there, but cannot prove 'intent', what the hell ever that means. I suppose one could use it in a murder trial claiming I had no intent on killing them.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162698 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:23 pm to
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I don't hate Barr like a lot of people on here for not investigating the voter fraud. He was DOJ, the FBI would have just undercut him or not done anything. That said...

I'm not sure what I was listening to, but I put CNN in the car for five minutes a little while ago. It was part of this kangaroo court. He made Trump sound like a complete lunatic. He said Trump gave him a report from an Allied Security company or something that purportedly showed hacking of Dominion and "would put him into office." Barr said it was completely amateur-ish. Now, I haven't seen it, but what really bummed me out is he said 2,000 Mules was a joke. He said the cell phone data would look however it does in any major city and the video didn't demonstrate that a few mules pumped ballots into the system. Call me a cuck, but I feel like HHTM at this point. It's time to hand Ron D the baton.
It is a crucifixion times 2 now. No doubt.

It is far too early to hand anyone the baton carte' blanche.

Lara Trump/Ric Grenell 2024. I won't give up and settle for who the establishment wants. Not this time. Not ever again...

I will wait and see them get vetted but they are tricky. (SEE Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio)

I would look to a third party and hope for Rand Paul- before I held my nose in Swamp establishment hope again.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75228 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:29 pm to
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If he says the same to MSM outlets, then I might change my mind.

That's an interesting burden of proof, since you and I both know that legacy MSM outlets are highly disinclined to ask about this.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162698 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:30 pm to
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Barr is and will always be a Bush Republican.
Daddy POS Cheney and his daughter probably group text hourly with Barr. Barr probably made bank via his book.

What is so revolting is Barr's video excerpts in this sham hearing- that he obviously approved.

----Then---- he goes on TV and says he thinks the whole thing is partisan and the DOJ shouldn't act against Trump maybe kinda sorta.

There is not too much more that I detest more than a fence sitting POS fat arse lard faced, bagpipe dufus, scum bucket, wishy washy fence sitter fake.
This post was edited on 6/13/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6288 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:33 pm to
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is he said 2,000 Mules was a joke.


That laugh he belted out was really funny. Like you could tell he was thinking, “these people are fricking idiots to believe this stuff.”
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6373 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:36 pm to
Trump's staff and kids did not
think his unwashed followers would actually believe
Trumps BS on the election. They overestimated his
glazed eyes followers intelligence...sad result for so many.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:44 pm to
The Deep State (which includes Billy Barr) is well entrenched in Washington, D.C. Remember these people are ALL career bureaucrats. They all have insane benefits, and job security, that most Americans can only imagine.

When they sense a threat (like Trump) they immediately circle the wagons. You cringe? The U.S.Congress is a money pit for bureaucrats. Name me one business or industry where the workers grant themselves a hefty pay raise.....without so much as bargaining. Name me one politician who retired from Congress (especially in the Senate) who DID NOT retire a multi-millionaire? So what does that mean for you and me? We're peons to them.

You've lost control of your government.




This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 7:54 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24098 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:55 pm to
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It’s been fascinating to watch Cabinet members join the Administration, everyone get excited for them and how badass they are, they deal with Trump for six months to a year, leave the Admin and detail how incompetent he is, and then everyone turns on them Tillerson, McMasterson, Mattis, Barr, etc


It's almost like you can find any opinion on any topic on the internet. Then you can find a contradicting opinion on that topic on the internet some time later. Then if you're a southern university educated lawyer you can try to claim you've uncovered some hypocrisy.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25142 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 2:02 pm to
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2. The cell phone data is the exact same cell phone data that the federal government used during Covid to tell if you were within 6 feet of another individual.


Hard to find a current answer on how accurate geotracking is, but the articles saying its sketchy tend to be years old.

"Geolocation used to be very screwed and low quality a decade ago. But that is not the case now. It is 100% accurate and can fetch you precise location data that you have been seeking for a while now. If you still doubt it, you can open your phone and share your location to see how accurate it is."

https://www.exposay.com/geolocation-on-android-phones/
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 4:16 pm to
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FTR, I called out Barr on day 1 due to his involvement with Ruby Ridge. I was heavily downvoted for it.


I seent it. Was right there with you.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 4:50 pm to
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I'm not an attorney but I believe a better analogy would be reasonable suspicion / probable cause. And we may see it in such a setting one day. Maybe not the documentary itself but the TTV data.

That already happened.

TTV made a presentation to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The GBI concluded that the information and data provided by TTV "does not rise to the level of probable cause that a crime has been committed" in September 2021.
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