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Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:56 am to themunch
What was discussed on mike Rodgers unannounced meeting with trump on November 17 
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:57 am to Decatur
No, so what is your question? He fired Manafort and that has not slowed down the inquisition.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:57 am to cajunangelle
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Catherine Herridge is trusted.
Who is the other lady with the very short hair and big hoops? She's very good also.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:57 am to jb4
Tell me.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:13 am to themunch
If the decisions to unmask were improper, why haven't the NSA personnel who made the decisions to unmask been removed?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:17 am to bamarep
None of this should surprise anyone AND just as soon as the Democratic Party can consolidate sufficient political power to do so, they will double down on these extra-legal methods.
They are, at heart, Totalitarians.
They are, at heart, Totalitarians.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:23 am to Champagne
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None of this should surprise anyone
I agree. Unmasking requests and decisions are a part of the job. Probably happens every day.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:25 am to bamarep
LOCK him UP
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:27 am to bamarep
So I'm not entirely sure what is the problem here. When we do surveillance on foreign adversaries, we hide the names of anyone they were talking to if they are American citizens. An unmasking request is going to the high ranking NSA officials and saying we want the name revealed. They decide whether or not you have a compelling case to have the identities revealed. What about any of this is illegal or unethical?
Also this article is written in such a way to make you think that unmasking requests were being granted every time which it says nothing of the sort.
Also this article is written in such a way to make you think that unmasking requests were being granted every time which it says nothing of the sort.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:30 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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The courts decide whether or not you have a compelling case to have the identities revealed.
High ranking NSA officials make the decision.
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What about any of this is illegal or unethical?
Nothing.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:34 am to Decatur
Oh you're right. I was confused on that. Still, I'm not sure what is illegal or unethical here.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:38 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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'Minimization' procedures When U.S. spy agencies eavesdrop on terrorists or foreign agents, they often come across information about U.S. citizens who are not the target of their investigation. This "incidental collection" is not illegal or improper, but specially trained intelligence officers are required to go through an established procedure to protect the privacy of U.S. persons, known as "minimization."
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Identifying information about that person will generally be excluded in intelligence reports that are distributed throughout the intelligence community, including those that go to the White House. Instead, the reports will refer only to "U.S. Person One," "U.S. Person Two," etc.
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But the intelligence community's policies on minimization are not absolute, and there are several exceptions. The National Security Agency, for example, will contain the names of U.S. persons in intelligence reports when: ? The information is available publicly, meaning "information that a member of the public could obtain on request, by research in public sources, or by casual observation." ? "The identity of the United States person is necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or assess its importance, e.g., the identity of a senior official in the executive branch." ? The intelligence indicates that the U.S. person may be "an agent of a foreign power."
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f a national security official who receives an intelligence report feels like he or she needs to know the identity of a U.S. person in an intelligence report, that official can make a request to "unmask." The procedures for doing so are less well understood than the minimization process, but about 20 officials at the National Security Agency have the authority to approve an unmasking, NSA Director Michael Rogers told the House Intelligence Committee last month. Especially sensitive requests would come to his attention personally. "I'm the senior-most of the 20 individuals. Requests will be pushed to my level, say 'Hey, sir, we just want to make sure that you're comfortable with this,'" he said. Rogers said those officials all have specific training. "There are specific controls put in place in terms of our ability to disseminate information out of the databases associated with U.S. persons," he said. Other intelligence agencies — including the CIA, FBI and the National Counterterrorism Center — have their own procedures for minimization and unmasking.
quote:That would be one Barack Obama's Executive Branch, thus the unusual number of American unmasked. LINK
The process for unmasking vary from agency to agency and case by case depending on how the information was collected. But the exact procedures are not publicly known and may be classified. “None of this unmasking procedure is in law. It's in procedure. Executive branch procedure," said Carrie Cordero, a national security lawyer who worked on surveillance issues in the Justice Department in the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:45 am to Jbird
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The procedures for doing so are less well understood than the minimization process, but about 20 officials at the National Security Agency have the authority to approve an unmasking, NSA Director Michael Rogers told the House Intelligence Committee last month. Especially sensitive requests would come to his attention personally. "I'm the senior-most of the 20 individuals. Requests will be pushed to my level, say 'Hey, sir, we just want to make sure that you're comfortable with this,'" he said. Rogers said those officials all have specific training. "There are specific controls put in place in terms of our ability to disseminate information out of the databases associated with U.S. persons," he said.
And the same people approve the requests made by officials in the Trump Admin.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:53 am to Homesick Tiger
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Who is the other lady with the very short hair and big hoops? She's very good also.
Jennifer Griffin
Cancer survivor to boot.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:53 am to Decatur
It's in procedure. Executive branch procedure
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:58 am to Jbird
Wasn't disputing that.
Just pointing out that it's the same people making the decisions in the new admin.
Just pointing out that it's the same people making the decisions in the new admin.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:02 am to Decatur
quote:So.
Just pointing out that it's the same people making the decisions in the new admin.
quote:LINK
As his presidency drew to a close, Barack Obama’s top aides routinely reviewed intelligence reports gleaned from the National Security Agency’s incidental intercepts of Americans abroad, taking advantage of rules their boss relaxed starting in 2011 to help the government better fight terrorism, espionage by foreign enemies and hacking threats, Circa has learned.
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Intelligence professionals tell Circa News they were concerned that some of the Russian intelligence was spread through group briefings to a much larger than usual audience back in January. This would have happened during the final days of the Obama administration when it expanded Executive Order 12333, which allows employees with a “need to know” to have unfettered access to raw data stored by the NSA. These new rules allowed the NSA to share “raw signals intelligence information,” including the names of those involved in phone conversations and emails.
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Obama sought to expand those powers and take down the wall during his second term in office. The original executive order only allowed limited personnel - those with the highest levels of security clearances - to view the original raw data. But the changes came at the end of his presidency. On Jan. 3, then Attorney General Loretta Lynch signed the expansion of the executive order, which had already been signed by DNI Director James Clapper in mid-December.
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