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As corrupt as the Democrats, MSM and deep state are, it’s sad that they are still winning

Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:04 pm
All the in fighting between the DeSantis and Trump supporters, blaming Trump for everything negative about Covid and believing the narrative of the 2020 election being completely legit is more than they could have dreamed of.
Posted by Foolio Street
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:07 pm to
The GOP is just as corrupt. Uniparty.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:09 pm to
I’m just glad the deep state was on PTO in 2016.
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:09 pm to
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As corrupt as the Democrats, MSM and deep state are, it’s sad that they are still winning

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blaming Trump for everything negative about Covid

Nobody blames Trump for everything negative about Covid. That said, doesn't it seem a little off to you to whine about Dems, the MSM and deep state still winning in a post you're defending a guy that got rolled by them over Covid?
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:13 pm to
The Dims/Groomers would not be enjoying entrenched political power if not for fake conservatives aka squishy Republicans.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:15 pm to
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The Dims/Groomers would not be enjoying entrenched political power if not for fake conservatives aka squishy Republicans.

Very, very true.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:15 pm to
Just being realistic. Not saying that Trump was anywhere near perfect but I don’t think anyone in his shoes would have been. He was not a medical professional, and unfortunately, he followed the wrong “experts“ advice. But it wasn’t just Fauci and the federal medical bureaucracy. I’m a physician, and I witnessed firsthand how the medical establishment has lost its ability to think independently
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:19 pm to
I agree. Again, the powers against Trump are tremendous. Not saying that he is or ever will be perfect, but no one, including DeSantis, will be.
Posted by Barneyrb
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:20 pm to
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I’m just glad the deep state was on PTO in 2016.


Trump caught them napping, they grossly underestimated the American public
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:21 pm to
Absolutely true. And they stated many times in the media before the 2020 election, that they wouldn’t let it happen again.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Just being realistic. Not saying that Trump was anywhere near perfect but I don’t think anyone in his shoes would have been. He was not a medical professional, and unfortunately, he followed the wrong “experts“ advice. But it wasn’t just Fauci and the federal medical bureaucracy. I’m a physician, and I witnessed firsthand how the medical establishment has lost its ability to think independently


Very true and to add on Trump did a travel ban to China end of January and was called a racist for it.

Unfortunately for America more politicians and bureaucrats fought tooth and nail for their own interests over the country's welfare every step of the way. No way one man can handle that.
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:24 pm to
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He was not a medical professional, and unfortunately, he followed the wrong “experts“ advice.

Biden isn't a border expert or economist, but I have zero problem holding him accountable for the dumpster fire at the southern border or where this country's economy is/is headed.

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Just being realistic. Not saying that Trump was anywhere near perfect but I don’t think anyone in his shoes would have been.

I don't agree. I think Trump could have handled Covid a shite ton better for the country than he did.

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I’m a physician, and I witnessed firsthand how the medical establishment has lost its ability to think independently

There were medical professionals that didn't lose this ability. In real time, there were those that spoke out against everything from how the CDC was lying about Covid (hospitalizations and deaths) to how utterly nonsensical (if not counterproductive) lockdowns were. Even on this message board there were many posters that knew what was what, also in real time.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:32 pm to
Yes, I realize they were medical professionals that spoke out against the recommended therapy and vaccination but many of these were vilified. Quite a few physicians lost their jobs. I know several that retired instead of getting vaccinated.

As far as Bidens policies are concerned, I agree. They are terrible. But still they continue with the full support of main stream media, the democratic party and the establishment Republicans. All these parties are supporting Biden, whereas they were all against Trump during his term. If Trump would’ve been anywhere close to the failure Biden is, he probably would’ve been lynched
Posted by 2020_reVISION
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:40 pm to
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quote: He was not a medical professional, and unfortunately, he followed the wrong “experts“ advice.

Biden isn't a border expert or economist, but I have zero problem holding him accountable for the dumpster fire at the southern border or where this country's economy is/is headed.

That is an absolutely absurd, ridiculous comparison in sooo many ways.


quote: Just being realistic. Not saying that Trump was anywhere near perfect but I don’t think anyone in his shoes would have been.

I don't agree. I think Trump could have handled Covid a shite ton better for the country than he did.

Based on what? It's not as if the vast majority of those that had his ear wanted him to handle Covid a "shite ton better".


quote: I’m a physician, and I witnessed firsthand how the medical establishment has lost its ability to think independently

There were medical professionals that didn't lose this ability. In real time, there were those that spoke out against everything from how the CDC was lying about Covid (hospitalizations and deaths) to how utterly nonsensical (if not counterproductive) lockdowns were. Even on this message board there were many posters that knew what was what, also in real time.


You can't be serious...can you? Those that spoke out were censored, de-platformed, fired, stripped of their medical licenses, etc...and repeating those views drew similar ire. Your assessment is way off, in real time.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17768 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:49 pm to
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You can't be serious...can you? Those that spoke out were censored, de-platformed, fired, stripped of their medical licenses, etc...and repeating those views drew similar ire.

So? What does this have to do with there being credible data/information early on that Covid was not what it was being hyped to be?

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Your assessment is way off, in real time.


Your post is an argument that my assessment is spot on. There would have been no censoring, de-platforming, firing, etc. if there wasn't credible evidence early in the game that Covid was not what those doing the censoring, de-platforming, etc., promised it would be.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115346 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:50 pm to
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The GOP is just as corrupt


I fricking wish.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30542 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:51 pm to
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The GOP is just as corrupt. Uniparty.

Absolutely. They’re funding Desantis to stop Trump
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