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re: Arkansas farmers want bailouts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:23 am to CitizenK
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:23 am to CitizenK
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I spoke with a partner of an engineering/fabrication/maintenance firm in Stuttgart last week. He does work all over the nation for rice, soybeans and corn. He's not happy that he voted for Trump right now unless something changes.
Cool
Another point on this - the US imports about 400k acres worth of rice - almost all of it being aromatic
With the tariffs on India and Thailand US domestic mills are gaining more of that market share
Aromatics are high value - Thai Lg is $350/mt whereas Jasmine is $1050/mt
LA farmers seem to be more willing to grow this premium rice than Ark guys
The spread in price is over $3/bushel right now
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:27 am to CitizenK
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Argentina and Brazil are laughing all the way to the bank regarding US tariff policies
Not in rice - they’re price is lowers than ours and they will cut acres this year
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There are a number of 10,000+ acre owners who make up a big chunk of rice growers. These are "corporate" farms and have been since pre-WWII
There are like 3-5 of these guys and they don’t even come close to making up a big chunk
Posted on 9/8/25 at 1:35 pm to Midtiger farm
there sure as hell are way more than that between Lake Chuck and Crowley. I know them personally
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:11 pm to CitizenK
That own 10k acres? That are farmed in rice ?
Name them
There might be 2 and if they do it’s right at 10k
Sweet lake might own 10k but only 6k are in a rice rotation
Name them
There might be 2 and if they do it’s right at 10k
Sweet lake might own 10k but only 6k are in a rice rotation
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:31 pm to Midtiger farm
This is correct! 400,000 acres is almost the equivalent to what we grow here in Louisiana. That is how much rice we are importing into the US every year. The bulk of it is Thai Jasmine and Indian basmati. We are slowly growing the jasmine acres in the US, but it takes a long time to develop. It is in a large part the Asian population in the US that wants the Jasmine because of its aroma and high-quality. That is why there is a premium paid on the Jasmine type varieties. It also takes infrastructure to handle this because the varieties have to be segregated. The bulk of storage facilities for Rice outside of South Louisiana and Texas are not equipped to do this. Arkansas Mississippi is almost all comingled. meaning that many varieties go into the same grain bin. in order for the US rice industry to remain competitive on a global level we will have to embrace quality such as we had before the 2000s. Rice cannot be treated like other commodities, such as corn and soybeans
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:31 pm to Midtiger farm
As I stated, I haven't lived there in years.
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Grey Ranch, now the Streams. Lyons, Petitjean, Lacassine Company to name a few off the top of my head. I've hunted a lot at the later when they didn't lease out to hunters even though Bill DuPont (the chemical company) offered my friend, Jim Bel, $250k annually for a goose blind (the largest speckled belly roost in North America was a few hundred yards across the border of the wildlife refuge). Some of these made their money on oil and gas, way more than farming. The oil and gas are now gone.
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Grey Ranch, now the Streams. Lyons, Petitjean, Lacassine Company to name a few off the top of my head. I've hunted a lot at the later when they didn't lease out to hunters even though Bill DuPont (the chemical company) offered my friend, Jim Bel, $250k annually for a goose blind (the largest speckled belly roost in North America was a few hundred yards across the border of the wildlife refuge). Some of these made their money on oil and gas, way more than farming. The oil and gas are now gone.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:50 pm to CitizenK
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Grey Ranch, now the Streams. Lyons, Petitjean, Lacassine Company to name a few off the top of my head.
Only Lacassine maybe has 10k in rice production. The rest probably don't have 10k in rice production combined
They aren't 10k acres of rice a year in Calcasieu parish and not much above in Cameron parish
The land that these people own makes up a very small percentage of the ground thats planted in Rice in south LA
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:10 pm to CitizenK
Lacassane company has about 2400-2500 of rice annually, petit Jean (Henning) about 2000, very little rice on the grey, Lyons only about 600 acres, sweet lake maybe 2000 between themselves and the tenant Farmers
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:13 pm to totospumpernickel
No. If you can’t compete then tough shite.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:24 pm to Midtiger farm
20K per year in production is what it used to have, of the 30,000 Two sharecroppers 25 years ago each with 10,000 acres
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:31 pm to CitizenK
Are you referring to lacassane co?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:40 pm to CitizenK
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20K per year in production is what it used to have, of the 30,000 Two sharecroppers 25 years ago each with 10,000 acres
This is not correct. Nobody 25 years ago farmed 10k acres of rice per year in South LA, no one does it now either, One of the guys who farms it now was farming it back then and never planted 10k acres of rice
They always had 4-6 farmers on there
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:23 pm to BigTx
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Why keep doing this if you’re losing money every year and living off the taxpayer? Unless you enjoy living off the taxpayer
I’m not losing money in catfish this year. I did last year but that’s largely due to half the crop didn’t sell until 2025. I can get ELAP money if there’s a qualifying weather event whether I profit or not.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:32 pm to deltaland
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I’m not losing money in catfish this year. I did last year but that’s largely due to half the crop didn’t sell until 2025. I can get ELAP money if there’s a qualifying weather event whether I profit or not.
This is a subject I’m not knowledgeable on and have never considered much. Thx for explanation. I’ve learned quite a bit reading through these posts.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:41 pm to jimmy the leg
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Yea, China is boycotting soybeans and corn, but to claim that is the only factor is moronic. Even if they were purchasing, the prices would still be low. The trade war isn’t helping matters, but this aspect was already happening. You were just unaware.
This. Crops are a global commodity. There is a glut of grain on the market right now. If there wasn’t an over supply of grain China wouldn’t be able to cut us out. Brazil and Argentina have cleared so much land for farming that the over supply will remain until demand increases worldwide or there is a significant reduction in acreage somewhere. Unfortunately that reduction may be US farms unless govt bails them out. Trumps trade deals are including ag purchases and it helps a little but even if more countries buy from us that means they stop buying from somewhere else, and the glut of grain is still an issue overall and will keep prices down.
If I’m a rowcrop farmer in the Midwest I’d look to diversify. Put some acreage into cattle or build some chicken houses. Most catfish farmers I know also have row crops in the delta. The ones in east ms and Alabama have chickens and cattle and rowcrops. Rarely are all down, when grains are down growing protein is more profitable due to cheap feed. When grains are up rowcrop farming is more profitable while growing animals is not. Set your operation up where you can shift production to the most profitable I.e if grains are down then increase cattle herd and plant less acreage. If grains are up decrease herd and plant more beans
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:48 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:lol
Farming is damn near guaranteed income
FYI I farm 2500 acres and I love these threads and dumbass posts like the above.
Mainly bc you have a group of folks here who have no idea what is going on or the current economics of agriculture in the us today and these stupid mother frickers sit here and type away as if that’s what they do for a living.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:49 pm to DIGGY
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Then buy/rent land, equipment, take out a yearly million plus crop loan, plant and hope God provides you weather or pay Entergy for the juice to make it rain to make a good crop, compete with non US producers whose countries do not have an EPA to regulate crop protection chemicals, and break even if you are lucky due to low commodity prices.
Oh f that
Some genius just said it’s damn near guaranteed income.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:49 pm to Bowstring1
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in order for the US rice industry to remain competitive on a global level we will have to embrace quality such as we had before the 2000s.
I wonder if you knew my great grandfather, you seem very knowledgeable in rice farming. He was the man who built Riceland into the cooperative it is today. Was CEO for 33 years until he retired in 1977. He basically set the price of rice back then. He also invented the modern grain drier. Lester Carter
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:51 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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They always throw the family legacy bullshite around. Your kids/grandkids are not entitled to keep the farm! What is this? Dowtan Abbey where the family entitled to the land in perpetuity?
So your offspring isn’t entitled to inherit and keep the land/farm that you worked slaves saved to pay for and own?
Hmmmmm Interesting.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:53 pm to frogtown
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The soybean farmers are the ones that are b*tchi
Perhaps
But many rice farmers are still holding portion of last years crop bc lack of market
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