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re: Arkansas farmers want bailouts

Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:44 pm to
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I don’t know a farmer that likes the check program


Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100664 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:49 pm to
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not Trump’s fault India dumped a shitload of rice on the world market. This could have happened at any time the last twenty years or more.


This. Egypt did the same to cotton decades ago

Now Brazil and Argentina are doing it to soybeans. It’s an over supply on the market driving prices down and isn’t going to get better anytime soon. The solution is to change policies to lower input costs for farmers


On a positive note, feed is cheap for cattle, chicken and aquaculture farmers so there’s money to make there.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5935 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:50 pm to
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We produce less than 1% of the global production. US Rice doesn't matter. Get over it. I hate it as much as you, but we don't matter. Vietnam could absorb us in a heartbeat.


You just don’t understand anything
It’s like I’m talking to my 5 year old
You have no knowledge of anything in this industry and keep repeating the same line over and over because you are getting owned

Production doesn’t matter in global trade if t its all being consumed in your own country
Also rice trade is pretty split between eastern and western hemisphere markets especially because most countries in the west like to import rough rice and mill it themselves and its cost prohibitive to do that from Asian countries and the Asians like to trade milled rice

China is the 2nd biggest producer of rice but don’t matter much in western hemisphere trade because they are the biggest importer so they matter more to their Asian neighbors who are large exporters

If the US or Mercosur countries have a disaster crop or plant a small crop then the other will dominate western hemisphere trade and their price will go up no matter what the Asian prices are doing

To say the US doesn’t matter in global rice trade is straight up ignorant
Posted by realbuffinator
Member since Nov 2023
1120 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Yes and that’s none of your business


Hybrid or conventional? How was the quality last year, and how is it this year.

Too many bins up here in AR still holding last year's harvest. Turned out this year's harvested quality isn't good enough to blend in and sell.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13573 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:53 pm to
Soybeans should only be for export. We don't need that shite in our diets. If US farmers replace it with a different crop, awesome. That's all it was in Indiana, soybeans and corn (in the 80s.)
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14804 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:54 pm to
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deltaland


Better stop. Some on this board will call you a welfare queen.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39762 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:54 pm to
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I’m still waiting for the details about how California and Arkansas rice industries are in so much better shape than LA


Arkansas produces 3 times as much as us and California produces almost twice as much. Neither has crawfish to bridge the gap and they still sustain their acreage. Their yields are almost a 1k lbs per acre better than us.

Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
1749 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:54 pm to
When did we become so weak?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100664 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:54 pm to
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I’m surprised the crawfish industry hasn’t gone full bore with this yet. I guess they’re happy to just keep raising prices.


Crawfish has ELAP as does catfish farms. You get a qualifying event like excessive heat, freeze, drought, tornado, hurricane and file a notice of loss. Turn in your inventory records for date of the event. After harvest you turn in ending inventory. They take 15% off beginning inventory for normal mortality rate then subtract ending inventory from that number to determine your loss. Then they calculate market price for the lbs lost, and pay 75% of that number. I just got approved for a little over a quarter million dollars for a hard freeze event back in January
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5935 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:55 pm to
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Hybrid or conventional? How was the quality last year, and how is it this year.


Both
Quality last year was below avg but not terrible
This year above avg
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Crawfish has ELAP as does catfish farms. You get a qualifying event like excessive heat, freeze, drought, tornado, hurricane and file a notice of loss. Turn in your inventory records for date of the event. After harvest you turn in ending inventory. They take 15% off beginning inventory for normal mortality rate then subtract ending inventory from that number to determine your loss. Then they calculate market price for the lbs lost, and pay 75% of that number. I just got approved for a little over a quarter million dollars for a hard freeze event back in January

Ah classic welfare queen behavior.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39762 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:57 pm to
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To say the US doesn’t matter in global rice trade is straight up ignorant


It doesn't.

Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14804 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:57 pm to
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oklahogjr


Found the mouth breather
Posted by realbuffinator
Member since Nov 2023
1120 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:58 pm to
Interesting. Up here the hybrid is almost all RiceTec and that's been the problems. Ton of silica in it that's been hell on bin unloads too - can't hardly auger the stuff.
Posted by realbuffinator
Member since Nov 2023
1120 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 8:59 pm to
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When did we become so weak?


When we stopped growing food and started growing feed, as incentivized and/or mandated by crop insurance.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:01 pm to
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The moutgbreathers on here are cool with big corporations getting welfare though. This board hates farmers and ranchers.


Not at all. I just find farmers to be the worst hypocrites.... They tend to vote for policies that are anti welfare yet demand it themselves because their kids might lose the farm...

Why do they deserve a safety net they say everyone else doesn't deserve?
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
1749 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:06 pm to
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When we stopped growing food and started growing feed, as incentivized and/or mandated by crop insurance.


How does this crop insurance work? They don’t want you to grow real food because of the risk of lost harvest? Who underwrites this?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40707 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:07 pm to
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subsidies


Nobody has clarified yet these “subsidies”

I wonder why
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39762 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Why do they deserve a safety net they say everyone else doesn't deserve?


National security. Plane and simple. We have to insure the Midwest can produce corn and wheat.

The argument I was in was about rice. That's a different animal and doesn't really matter in relation to corn and wheat.
This post was edited on 9/7/25 at 9:21 pm
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14804 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:11 pm to
I bet you are cool with every other form of corporate welfare though. But hey frick the farmers i guess
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