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re: Arizon AG encourages citizens to shoot ICE agents.

Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:23 pm to
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Yeah for your illegal buddies


They have done this to american citizens.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:26 pm to
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They have done this to american citizens.

Could you post a link for that reporting?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15394 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:31 pm to
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For years right wingers have said that the Second Amendment exists so that citizens can use firearms against an oppressive government.

I have never agreed with the right wing vision.

Is this what y'all have been saying the 2A is designed to protect?


Arresting criminals for committing crimes is not oppression. These people aren’t migrants, they’re criminals. We are a nation of laws. I don’t give a shite if they are deporting children. The children need to get the hell out of this country too. This isn’t oppression, this is carrying out lawful arrests and deportations.
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
561 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:31 pm to
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Could you post a link for that reporting?


https://www.kcra.com/article/ice-warrantless-arrest-st-paul-thao/70059507
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SAINT PAUL, Minn. —
Federal immigration agents forced open a door and detained a U.S. citizen in his Minnesota home at gunpoint without a warrant, then led him out onto the streets in his underwear in subfreezing conditions, according to his family and videos reviewed by The Associated Press.

Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
983 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:35 pm to
A weird election calendar and a lot of snowbird Midwest Democrats that moved there. Don't know if you've ever been, but they have strip malls and grocery outlets that have golf cart parking everywhere.

They are starting to trend more red, slowly, with the cali refugees.
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
983 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:40 pm to
Curious. Why is this mass resistance to ICE only occuring in the twin cities?

Maine is Democrat ran, and so far, their pathetic attempt to duplicate the clowns in Minnesota is going nowhere because they don't have enough people to spend all day trailing ICE vehicles with their stupid whistles and their tantrums.

Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
3414 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:41 pm to
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bootlicker


You’re licking the boots of illegal criminals that have no business being here. Y’all would do anything for them: riot, fight LEO in the streets, jail time, etc., just keep following your marching orders.

Quit housing a bunch of illegals and you won’t have to worry about “getting your door kicked in”.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:49 pm to
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They have done this to american citizens.


Just like they grabbed a 5yr old yesterday
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
561 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:51 pm to
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Quit housing a bunch of illegals and you won’t have to worry about “getting your door kicked in”.


That's right. Blame the victims when they have their rights violated.

Gonna start speaking German too? Is your arm too stiff to bend at the elbow when you wave?

Its disgusting how so many of you cowards would gladly give up all your rights if it means there's a few less brown folk amongst us.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98007 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:52 pm to
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if it means there's a few less illegal criminal folk amongst us.


I fify
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:56 pm to
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SAINT PAUL, Minn. —
Federal immigration agents forced open a door and detained a U.S. citizen in his Minnesota home at gunpoint without a warrant, then led him out onto the streets in his underwear in subfreezing conditions, according to his family and videos reviewed by The Associated Press.

So he was in a home where DOJ says two illegals that are convicted sex offenders, and he resembles one of the targets and refused to be fingerprinted or facially ID'd.

So they thought he was an illegal convicted sex offender. They were mistaken and got it figured out.

Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
561 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:57 pm to
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So he was in a home where DOJ says two illegals that are convicted sex offenders, and he resembles one of the targets and refused to be fingerprinted or facially ID'd.

So they thought he was an illegal convicted sex offender. They were mistaken and got it figured out.


You missed the part where they broke down a door and entered someone's house without a judges signature.

Do you think that Americans should have rights or do you think we shouldn't?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:58 pm to
Signature!
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:59 pm to
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Its disgusting how so many of you cowards would gladly give up all your rights if it means there's a few less brown folk amongst us.

JFC - nobody will give up their rights and why is it all about race for you?

There has been how many ICE arrests/detainings? Hundreds of thousands, right? Do you expect hundreds of thousands of arrests/detainings to happen with zero mistakes made?
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
561 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Do you expect hundreds of thousands of arrests/detainings to happen with zero mistakes made?

Mistakes happen. Sure. But you are completely ignoring what I'm saying. Ill say it very clearly.

If you release a memo saying that your officers dont need judges to sign warrants to enter homes, it's not a fricking "mistake".

Is that simple enough? Going to change the subject again because your too chicken shite to just come out and say that you could give a frick about our rights or the constitution? Just say it. All of your buddies agree with you, trust me.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:07 pm to
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If you release a memo saying that your officers dont need judges to sign warrants to enter homes, it's not a fricking "mistake".

Did the memo say the officers don't need judges to sign warrants to enter homes of American citizens? I don't think so.

So it was a mistake that they entered the home of an American citizen, when they thought they were apprehending an illegal that was a convicted sex offender.

As for the legal justification for entering homes of illegals without a warrant, has DHS explained their rationale?

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Is that simple enough? Going to change the subject again because your too chicken shite to just come out and say that you could give a frick about our rights or the constitution?

I changed what subject? What the frick are you getting emotional about here?
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
561 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:15 pm to
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say the officers don't need judges to sign warrants to enter homes of American citizens? I don't think so.
the memo doesn't differentiate between citizens and illegals. Simply if they think someone illegal might be at a residence they can break the door in. In a real democracy they should need to provide actual evidence to a judge that the person lives there and they need to break in.

When you give anonymous officers the ability to break in to any house that they think might have an illegal and you claim they have "absolute immunity" as jd vance has said, you are absolutely violating the constitution.

And it's not a "mistake"
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:21 pm to
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the memo doesn't differentiate between citizens and illegals. Simply if they think someone illegal might be at a residence they can break the door in. In a real democracy they should need to provide actual evidence to a judge that the person lives there and they need to break in.

You say in a real democracy, there should be a signed warrant, etc. But what does the law/courts say?

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When you give anonymous officers the ability to break in to any house that they think might have an illegal and you claim they have "absolute immunity" as jd vance has said, you are absolutely violating the constitution.

What does anonymous have to do with it?

If it's unconstitutional, then it'll be ruled that way. That's why I asked about DHS's rationale - why do they think warrants aren't required as long as their target is an illegal?

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And it's not a "mistake"

It was a mistake. Why do you have a problem acknowledging that ICE detained a guy they thought was an illegal with conviction on his record? Isn't that what's reported in what you linked?
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3999 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:05 pm to
I just don’t understand how it was ok for Obama ICE to do this? The media literally did ride alongs where they picked people up during middle of the day and it was applauded by these same idiots out protesting. Same media. How does one rationalize this in their heads? Just imagine if those ICE agents were getting harrassed and followed. At some point people have to realize their minds are being tricked to the point of lunacy.
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