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re: Are you tired of subsidizing Europe’s security?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:53 pm to Sofaking2
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:53 pm to Sofaking2
quote:I would submit that Poland has reached the same tier -- and arguably surpassed them in some ways. Turkiye is also formidable, though not particularly reliable.
Most of European country’s militaries are a joke. There is maybe France and England. That’s about it.
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:55 pm to GumboPot
quote:Speaking truth to people who do not want to hear it can indeed be unpopular (at least amongst those people).
Do you (VOR) post the most unpopular takes just for the fun of it?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:59 pm to GumboPot
Let them pay for their own prescription drugs. Americans are tired of footing the bill for the rest of the world
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:02 pm to VOR
We are not funding their social programs?
Are we not? When for 70 years they never spent a dime toward NATO, they spent it on their social programs while we provided security. We could have used that money on us. Now we have a President that knows this.
Are we not? When for 70 years they never spent a dime toward NATO, they spent it on their social programs while we provided security. We could have used that money on us. Now we have a President that knows this.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:04 pm to GumboPot
My fatigue levels are beyond what you can even imagine.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:05 pm to JimNat
quote:Where do you people GET this stuff?
for 70 years they never spent a dime toward NATO
Did a lot of NATO countries spend less than was prudent on their militaries, especially after the fall of the Soviet Union? Absolutely.
But "never spent a dime?" Jeebus. How old are you? 25?
In the 1970s and 1980s, the Bundeswehr was seriously badass, until their political leaders got distracted by absorbing their Eastern cousins rather than maintaining their military.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:18 pm to Marco_Duo
How old are you? Im 68 and old enough and you are what?
Im sure they spent some, but not enough, our MIC made sure of that.
Im sure they spent some, but not enough, our MIC made sure of that.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:22 pm to JimNat
quote:I too am in my 60s. I suppose that I just paid more attention to the news in my youth than you did.
How old are you? Im 68 and old enough and you are what?
In the 1980s, NATO fielded about 3.5mm troops in Europe, of which only about 300,000 were American.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:33 pm to Sofaking2
quote:I googled it just today. Care to guess how many active duty members Great Britain current has? 74K! The Alabama National Guard has 14K. We are talking about a population of 65 million to 5 million. Europe is not serious about national defense as long as Americans are willing to foot the bill, and spill blood to snatch their arse out of the fire!
LOL, I can’t laugh at this enough. Most of European country’s militaries are a joke. There is maybe France and England.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:33 pm to GumboPot
Yes.
Among others.
Among others.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:39 pm to greygoose
quote:The UK's armed forces consist of approximately 181,000 personnel. Approximately 3x what you claim.
I googled it just today. Care to guess how many active duty members Great Britain current has? 74K!
This includes the British Army, Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, and Royal Marines. In 2025, the British Army had around 109,000 personnel, the Royal Navy had 37,900, and the Royal Air Force had 34,830. about 140,000 of them are "active duty."
Yes, too small for a country with the population of Great Britain.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:42 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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There is absolutely no justification for our continued membership in NATO.
We need to keep Europe under our thumb.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:42 pm to GumboPot
Drop the NATO fake bullshite without question.
We spent ungodly sums of money on this Cold War LARP, all while EU Marxist politicians flooded their own cities with degenerate, violent 3rd worlders. So what did we accomplish exactly?
We spent ungodly sums of money on this Cold War LARP, all while EU Marxist politicians flooded their own cities with degenerate, violent 3rd worlders. So what did we accomplish exactly?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:49 pm to Marco_Duo
quote:Just going by what ChatGPT told me.
The UK's armed forces consist of approximately 181,000 personnel. Approximately 3x what you claim.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:53 pm to GumboPot
Just a scheme to get the USA to participate in European defense
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:58 pm to greygoose
quote:then you must’ve asked if the wrong question.
The UK's armed forces consist of approximately 181,000 personnel. Approximately 3x what you claim.Just going by what ChatGPT told me.
The number that you quoted is fairly close to the number of the personnel in the British active duty army only.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:30 pm to UncleLogger
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So what did we accomplish exactly?
Europe is not a competitor for us on the world stage.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:44 pm to GumboPot
At the rate they're ushering in third world Neanderthals, frick them. Let the beasts feast.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:46 pm to GumboPot
NATO is our enemy
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:01 pm to GumboPot
The NATO budget is far less than you probably think. Just over 4 billion.
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The USA pays just over 15 percent of that.
I'd hardly say that is a crushing amount, it's less than a billion dollars a year. Sure that is not chump change, I realize that, but people who don't look into these things think we are paying much more as both an amount and as a percentage.
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The USA pays just over 15 percent of that.
I'd hardly say that is a crushing amount, it's less than a billion dollars a year. Sure that is not chump change, I realize that, but people who don't look into these things think we are paying much more as both an amount and as a percentage.
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 12:46 am
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