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Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:04 pm to
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No, you should be consistent.

I am.
But the left left is far worse.

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you people


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we never hear shite from you when it's a Republican in the White House

Incorrect.
The GOP and Dems are both complicit.
I’m not too concerned what you think about my sincerity tho.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116771 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:12 pm to
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No individual existing in a civilization has unfettered freedom.


Unfettered freedom from govt existed in the U.S. and it went very well. They were called pioneers or settlers moving west into land with no law, no sheriff, no jails, etc.

The freedom was only restricted by the people they came into contact with. If you thought stealing a horse was OK your neighbors took care of your problem with a noose.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:25 pm to
I remember a man who was all gung ho and mocking liberals in the lead up to war in 2002. Then his son was sent to Iraq. That shut him up.

I'll chalk you up as being in favor of oppression, war and deficit spending when a Republican is president.

Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Civilization means rules, and rules restrict what individuals can and can't do.


That's kind of the point of the rule of law? Isn't it?
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3334 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:00 pm to
Chalk up whatever you want asshat.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80205 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:41 pm to
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If you thought stealing a horse was OK your neighbors took care of your problem with a noose.



That is an example of a community rule. You weren't free to steal horses.

You just made my point for me.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116771 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:41 pm to
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That is an example of a community rule. You weren't free to steal horses. You just made my point for me.


Great! If you believe in community rule then you believe we don't need govt. I'm with ya!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80205 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:17 pm to
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If you believe in community rule then you believe we don't need govt. I'm with ya!


You've known me long enough to know I'm not a friend of big government.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116771 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:39 pm to
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You've known me long enough to know I'm not a friend of big government.


Yes, but I was trying to demonstrate that I was not supporting your assertion.

Independence Day is kinda depressing for me. I remember listening to Neal Boortz:
"Most Americans don't like independence. It terrifies them."
He was right.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26327 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:51 pm to
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You've known me long enough to know I'm not a friend of big government.


You may not be happy with big gov't, but big gov't is extremely happy with people like you helping them out.

Typical of non-conservatives. Pushing for their own destruction.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80205 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Typical of non-conservatives. Pushing for their own destruction.


WAT?

Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11322 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:46 pm to
We havent been free in a long time. The walls are now closing in and people are just now recognizing it.

Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6705 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:55 pm to
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Are you free to walk into a store and shoplift . .


In a lot of large cities you are, as long as it under $900 a visit.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52366 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:05 pm to
I’m free, but we have people watching you and arranging obstacles to your progress.
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