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re: Are the walls caving in on Teedy Phase ta 2?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:13 pm to roadGator
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:13 pm to roadGator
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Having those barriers and not deploying them and admitting to not knowing they were in their inventory is the negligent part. Those barriers are nothing new. They are easy to deploy and cheap when considering the cost of the lives lost. They are essential to the overall vehicle access denial protocol for large events. Even the Kansas State Fair uses them.
But they put a cop and a cop car there instead. It wasn’t left open.
I’m sure a gifted plaintiff lawyer can make a case but I just don’t see it being a massive judgement. But wtf do I know.
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:18 pm to Robin Masters
People are confusing some things.
The barriers I’m speaking off are not to replace the cop cars. They are deny access to the sidewalk.
I’ll see if I can find a good picture.
These placed between the buildings and the cop cars in this case to deny vehicles access to the sidewalks.
The barriers I’m speaking off are not to replace the cop cars. They are deny access to the sidewalk.
I’ll see if I can find a good picture.
These placed between the buildings and the cop cars in this case to deny vehicles access to the sidewalks.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:22 pm to roadGator
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People are confusing some things. The barriers I’m speaking off are not to replace the cop cars. They are deny access to the sidewalk. I’ll see if I can find a good picture.
My understanding was they didn’t have the barriers so they put a cop car there instead. Obviously that wasn’t sufficient since that is the route the shitstain took but in my mind the city took measures to keep people from driving down the road. It would be interesting to know what the protocols and best practices are in NOLA and other major cities. If that is considered a suitable replacement for barriers then I don’t see how you can argue negligence.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:22 pm to Robin Masters
Basic common-sense thinking.
Itt was on the news that what happened in France:(2017) caused specific NOLA meetings about millions to be spent....
So this crazy type of tragedy didn't happen in NOLA?
I walked with a triple stroller with my babies and partied in NOLA and also never thought of such a thing.
My issue is there was millions to be spent to block roads, in some meeting in 2017? Rumors of what happened to that money. NYCity does this type or newly needed safety, with large snowplow dump trucks and sanitation trucks.
Itt was on the news that what happened in France:(2017) caused specific NOLA meetings about millions to be spent....
So this crazy type of tragedy didn't happen in NOLA?
I walked with a triple stroller with my babies and partied in NOLA and also never thought of such a thing.
My issue is there was millions to be spent to block roads, in some meeting in 2017? Rumors of what happened to that money. NYCity does this type or newly needed safety, with large snowplow dump trucks and sanitation trucks.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:25 pm to roadGator
Obviously that is ideal but is not using those considered “negligence”?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:26 pm to Robin Masters
Visit meridian rapid defense systems website.
You’ll see what other cities do that NOlA didn’t but could have done.
This is parallel to what I do for a living.
It’s complete negligence to own those and not deploy them.
You’ll see what other cities do that NOlA didn’t but could have done.
This is parallel to what I do for a living.
It’s complete negligence to own those and not deploy them.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:27 pm to roadGator
Interesting. Thanks. Those seem to be outstanding to stop access to sidewalks.
Isn't it difficult to access some sidewalks due to balcony poles?
Isn't it difficult to access some sidewalks due to balcony poles?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:32 pm to roadGator
I see your point and if I had a loved one who had died I’d probably be inclined to see it differently.
It will be an interesting case to watch.
It will be an interesting case to watch.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:34 pm to Robin Masters
You apparently haven't been following the complete story.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:37 pm to Mandtgr47
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You apparently haven't been following the complete story.
I have not . I will readily admit I do not have a firm grasp on all the facts.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:37 pm to Tomatocantender
Gordon appreciates the angle , he is writing notes
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:45 pm to LRB1967
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The city needs a mayor who is honest and competent
I understand what you're saying but this isn't going to happen in New Orleans
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:49 pm to Chrome
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this isn't going to happen in New Orleans
Sadly, I think that you are right.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:50 pm to momentoftruth87
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Don’t understand how someone like that is in charge or police.
Mayors are elected by 6 corrupt black pastors in New Orleans. This tragedy was even re-elected by them.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:52 pm to cajunangelle
They don’t block the entire sidewalk.
They can be positioned to keep pedestrians moving but deny vehicles access like the terrorist did.
They are used all over the country.
They can be positioned to keep pedestrians moving but deny vehicles access like the terrorist did.
They are used all over the country.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:54 pm to Robin Masters
Owning them, admitting to not knowing the city owned them and not deploying them is the negligent part.
If indeed it’s true they owned them.
Here’s the part that should piss everyone off.
They can be rented for large events. Rented.
If indeed it’s true they owned them.
Here’s the part that should piss everyone off.
They can be rented for large events. Rented.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 3:07 pm to Tomatocantender
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get Teedy to step down as Nola's mayor
This woman will NEVER do that.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 3:27 pm to roadGator
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Owning them, admitting to not knowing the city owned them and not deploying them is the negligent part.
“To prove negligence in Louisiana, you must demonstrate that the defendant owed you a duty of care, breached that duty through their actions or inaction, and that this breach directly caused your injuries, resulting in damages you suffered; essentially proving "duty, breach, causation, and damages.".
Key elements to prove negligence in LA:
Duty of care:
The defendant must have had a legal obligation to act reasonably to avoid causing harm to you, based on the situation and relationship between parties.
Breach of duty:
The defendant failed to act with reasonable care, violating the duty of care they owed you.
Causation:
The defendant's breach of duty must be the direct cause of your injuries, meaning "but for" their actions, your injuries would not have occurred.
Damages:
You must have suffered actual harm or losses as a result of the defendant's negligence, such as medical expenses, lost wages, pain and”
Got this from AI. I guess it mostly comes down to “duty of care” and how responsible is the city to protect you from injury. I get your point that it would have been better to have them up but I guess what I’m unsure of is if that rises to negligence.
I’m certain there is tons of precedent on these sorts of cases (not necessarily dealing with terrorism). Such as, If another car crosses the median and hits you on the interstate is the city negligent because the barrier was down? It would have been better if the median was there BUT do they have a duty to put one up?
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/4/25 at 3:34 pm to Robin Masters
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piggy wiggly
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pork
Checks out
Posted on 1/4/25 at 3:35 pm to Beessnax
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. I never even thought about it until it happened. I can't see holding the city responsible for something that I had never even thought of.
You miss the last 8 snackbar mass killings by driving a vehicle through tourist crowded areas? Both outside the US and within?
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