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re: Are Boomers to blame for the current state of the country?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:14 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:14 pm to David_DJS
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Wouldn't everything shift? If senior leadership was typically 45-65 and is now 55-75, wouldn't all the levels see similar shifts?
We’ve yet to see. However, I doubt ageism dies out in a single generation shift. And even at “only” 50, there is a difference in intensity and energy than at 35-50. The value in 50+ in the workplace is knowledge and experience. But the will do actually do the day to day shite work drops significantly
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 4:16 pm
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:15 pm to canyon
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So boomers are a bad generation because they choose to continue to work and own homes. What should boomers do iyo? As a boomer I love these bashing threads that try to come off as comedy.
Read my entire post then the rest of my conversation with David.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:15 pm to JiminyCricket
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You done set off the "if they wouldn't want a 7,500 sq ft house, avocado toast, 10 vacations a year, those youngins would have money too!" batsignal for the board boomers
Permits and paperwork are like 20% of the cost of a house these days. The boomers passed zoning and other restrictions that literally make it un feasible for contractors to build starter homes.
NIMBY. Not In My Backyard yells the boomers!
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:22 pm to LSUGrrrl
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And even at “only” 50, there is a difference in intensity and energy than at 35-50. The value in 50+ in the workplace is knowledge and experience. But the will do actually do the day to day shite work drops significantly
If there were all these 45-55 yo extraordinarily gifted men/women full of energy and creativity that were stuck behind slowing boomers, why aren't they being hired away by companies (or starting their own) that'll go onto kick boomer-led arse?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:29 pm to SaintsTiger
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Permits and paperwork are like 20% of the cost of a house these days. The boomers passed zoning and other restrictions that literally make it un feasible for contractors to build starter homes.
NIMBY. Not In My Backyard yells the boomers!
This is whiny horseshite. There are two Gen-X/Millennials for every one boomer, so how are boomers getting all this done?
Here's an idea. Rather than investing your time nonsensically whining about boomers, go build a community of starter homes out in the boondocks somewhere. You'll make a fortune.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:31 pm to David_DJS
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If there were all these 45-55 yo extraordinarily gifted men/women full of energy and creativity that were stuck behind slowing boomers, why aren't they being hired away by companies (or starting their own) that'll go onto kick boomer-led arse?
Much more complicated issue.
I think Gen X and older millennials are much less affected than other generations as we are finally moving into top positions now while there is still time. Will there be a trickle effect, though? Will we now hold onto these positions longer to reap the higher incomes as long as possible before retirement? If we are only just moving into these positions in our 50s, will our retirement age now also be older? Almost certainly.
We really can’t compare boomer rise through the career rank to later generations simply due to generational size and overall change in business structure over the years. It’s just a totally different game and pathway to success. As for entrepreneurship, that’s so different today as to be an entirely different animal. Financial and regulatory changes alone make it impossible to compare opportunities of the past to today.
Again, I certainly don’t blame boomers. It’s not their fault that their generation is so large at the same time life expectancy has seen such a jump. It’s kind of a perfect storm. However, it can’t be ignored that there are definite impacts on following generations. It’s the refusal to recognize and appreciate those impacts that’s seen as selfish.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:32 pm to The Scofflaw
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Are Boomers to blame for the current state of the country?
Baby boomers worked and went home to dinner. Which policies do you think those workers passed through Congress to cause whatever catastophe you're talking about?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:33 pm to i am dan
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Which policies do you think those workers passed through Congress to cause whatever catastophe you're talking about?
Boomers have controlled Congress for a few decades, at this point.
See that spike? That's pretty much all Boomer-dominated society.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:34 pm to DrrTiger
So you think there’s 77 million gen cents out there?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Boomers have controlled Congress for a few decades, at this point.
Who has control, SFP? - the voters, or those that the voters elect?
Boomers have been out voted by younger generations for over twenty years. On your graph there's an important inflection point upward. How long ago was it?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:46 pm to The Scofflaw
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In debt, broke, etc. Trillions in interest payments. It's getting harder and harder to blame another generation, if not.
You Boomer Bashers need to have a sit down with your parents/grandparents and air your grievances.....tell them how you feel, tell them you don't want any of their stinking inheritance.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:51 pm to LSUGrrrl
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We really can’t compare boomer rise through the career rank to later generations simply due to generational size and overall change in business structure over the years. It’s just a totally different game and pathway to success. As for entrepreneurship, that’s so different today as to be an entirely different animal. Financial and regulatory changes alone make it impossible to compare opportunities of the past to today.
Everything is always different. This isn't new with boomers or anyone.
I agree with the argument that things are different. I think it's hard to argue persuasively that things are harder today. Even on the entrepreneurship side, I do not believe it's harder today than in the past and in fact, it might be easier.
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Again, I certainly don’t blame boomers.
I know and that's a good position to have.
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However, it can’t be ignored that there are definite impacts on following generations. It’s the refusal to recognize and appreciate those impacts that’s seen as selfish.
I think it's those impacts that we're debating. I don't believe it's harder today for anybody to do well.
The rich are getting richer, and younger. A survey of U.S. investors with $25 million or more finds their average age dropped by 11 years since 2014, to 47. These fabulously rich Americans, whose ranks have more than doubled since the depths of the Great Recession, are younger than less wealthy millionaires.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:53 pm to David_DJS
Just had a thought that blew my mind. Youre the tail end of boomers and I’m the tail end of gen X and youre only 6 years younger than my mom
She will be 70 in a couple days.
She will be 70 in a couple days.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:57 pm to Bass Tiger
Be careful about criticizing Boomers. Some don't have long to live and they probably wouldn't mind taking some of you with them.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 4:58 pm to The Scofflaw
Might as well blame us “boomers”! We get blamed for everything else! Just an FYI! Many of us boomers weren’t into spitting on soldiers comin home from Nam! Nor attend any of tte counterculture demonstrations! Very very many of us served our country with honor, got a job, raised a very responsible family, and continue to love America!
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:00 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Just had a thought that blew my mind. Your the tail end of boomers and I’m the tail end of gen X and your only 6 years younger than my mom
She will be 70 in a couple days.
- 70 seems 25 years away. Really. It does. Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:02 pm to David_DJS
. That thought just Prompted me to order flowers and chocolate covered strawberries to be delivered on Friday. Thanks for that.
And I believe you bc I swear I’m not 50 years old. I just won the damn salsa contest at our resort during spring break in Punta Cana. I swear I’m still 35
And I believe you bc I swear I’m not 50 years old. I just won the damn salsa contest at our resort during spring break in Punta Cana. I swear I’m still 35
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:08 pm to The Scofflaw
I feel sorry for the doomsayers.
Newsflash:!Ive heard the exact same thing every ten years or so. It’s usually
The same curmudgeonly crowd and they are always full of crap. This great country carries on and ultimately prospers.. it will continue…
Newsflash:!Ive heard the exact same thing every ten years or so. It’s usually
The same curmudgeonly crowd and they are always full of crap. This great country carries on and ultimately prospers.. it will continue…
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:11 pm to JacieNY
quote:preach
Ask em again about their attitude towards wealth redistribution when they are as old as the Boomers are now.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:15 pm to LSUGrrrl
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. That thought just Prompted me to order flowers and chocolate covered strawberries to be delivered on Friday. Thanks for that.
You don't even know my address?
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And I believe you bc I swear I’m not 50 years old. I just won the damn salsa contest at our resort during spring break in Punta Cana. I swear I’m still 35
I wish I had some advice but all that comes to mind is - you won't get used to it, and that's probably a good/healthy thing. It's kind of funny. I have some friends my age that look/seem like they're enthusiastically ready to embrace 75, and others that look/seem intent on avoiding that. I can't remember the person (an MD) that said this, but it made sense to me - you don't want to live for as long as you can, what you want to do is live well as long as you can and then die quickly.
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