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re: Apparently, stocks only lose value and never regain or exceed declines.

Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:44 pm to
Cuckler math!
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5492 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:46 pm to
At least use an honest graph.



The market was sub 20,000 under Obama.

The day we hit 20,000 was a milestone I never thought I’d see in 2009. That milestone was courtesy of President Donald J. Trump.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
69740 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:46 pm to
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The last 7 years have spoiled people. Those of us who lived through Obama know what it’s like to see red.


This.

And i argue if kamala was elected the marlet would be in a continuous downard spiral.

Only reason stocks went up the last 4 years is inflation was so dn high.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1117 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:47 pm to
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You lost 15, gained 25. That puts you 15 behind where you potentially could have been


I'm I'm sorry but taking it as it's written this maybe the stupidest thing ever written about the stock market in the history of things written about the stock market. Are you under the impression that because it went up 25 it was going to go up 25 anyways even if it hadn't Fallen back 15? Like that's some sort of fricking stock market rule or something? Are you fricking retarded
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:48 pm to
Are you back on the bottle
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:48 pm to
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This whole argument is contingent on the flawed premise that stocks only go up.


No kidding.

We're talking about this unforced error that is dropping the market, recovery to potential will take much longer now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:49 pm to
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that because it went up 25 it was going to go up 25 anyways

Potentially, absolutely.

If it hadnt gone to 60, it certianly would have sold higher than 80 in that time frame if the market were healthy
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:49 pm to
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Potentially, absolutely

Oh
My
God

You're serious

Wow
Posted by Jdash13
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2023
713 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:51 pm to
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Imagine all the 65+ year olds that were about to retire.


if they let a two day decline ruin their retirement then they weren't ready to retire period. Boomers have had the best of everything including the longest bull market during their peak earning years. They need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and cut their frivolous spending on Becky's Botox and cut out your golf and dinner at Sullivan's.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:51 pm to
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Potentially, absolutely

Oh
My
God


Absolutely.

How much you earning while your portfolio is falling?
Posted by Logician
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:52 pm to
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You could have sold higher than 80 had the market not fallen You lost 15, gained 25. That puts you 15 behind where you potentially could have been
holy shite

This belongs in the TD hall of fame, right next to “the faster you go, the higher your miles/gallon”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283027 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:55 pm to
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This belongs in the TD hall of fame


I agree. Youre not making money when your 401k porfolio is in the red when its an unforced error.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13400 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:56 pm to
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At least use an honest graph.

lol you really said this in the same post that you posted a graph that excludes 3/4ths of Obamas term?

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21348 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:00 pm to
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Imagine all the 65+ year olds that were about to retire. They just lost 10-12% of their retirement in 3 months.


No, they didn't, and if they did, they are doing it wrong. They probably were flat or maybe even up a little.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5492 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:00 pm to
The rest of his term was even worse. The shite economy in 2016 is the reason Hillary lost.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1117 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:01 pm to
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Absolutely.

How much you earning while your portfolio is falling?

Dude. Stop it. You're. Embarrassing yourself. This may be the most embarrassing set of posts from somebody I've ever seen on the internet. Take a break and probably stop drinking today
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1117 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:02 pm to
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This belongs in the TD hall of fame, right next to “the faster you go, the higher your miles/gallon”

It's honestly amazing and the stupid frick looks like he's going to quadruple and quintuple down. I mean it's possibly the most embarrassing thing ever written about the stock market
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1117 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Imagine all the 65+ year olds that were about to retire. They just lost 10-12% of their retirement in 3 months

If you are 65 years old and your current portfolio asset allocation is such that you experience 100% of the decline or gain in the equities Market you're a fricking idiot
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13400 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:05 pm to
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The rest of his term was even worse.


the stock market was in the 8,000s when he took office, crashed due to the housing collapse, and was above 20,000 when he left.

if you lost money on it it's because you have paper hands.

and it wasn't due to some great policies or anything like that by Obama, just him not fricking up was good enough to let the economy recover by itself.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51492 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:15 pm to
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Also, if you have investments in stocks or other instruments or commodities, you apparently lose money even if you choose not to sell.

That seems to be the takeway from the reporting of the last week (and many concerned posters here).


The markets will never recover from Trump's tariff war, it's over, the Global Reset has begun.

If you don't have some land to grow food, raise some livestock along with the firepower to protect your property and possessions (hopefully you bought all the gold and ammo you could afford) you're in trouble.

I'm mostly joking here^^^, but every American if possible should have some available options if shite truly hits the fan. I don't think Trump's tariff war is the catalyst for the big "shite hitting the fan moment."

Is it possible the global economy could go into a hard recession? Yes, but if a recession occurs I'm confident in the next 12-16 months the US will be the nation leading the global economy out of recession if a recession were to occur.
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