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re: AP: Republicans Blame Ted Cruz For Year End Confirmations
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:36 pm to a want
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:36 pm to a want
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All of those government employees were paid retroactively for not working. That's incredibly wasteful. And everybody knew it was going to happen...even Cruz.
I'm not going to pretend to know whether he or anybody else knew that they would be retroactively paid. That being said, if a person fights against wasteful spending, knowing very well that it will actually result in even more wasteful spending (paying government employees not to work) then I would view that person more negatively than those that are all for wasteful spending. It would be one of the worst forms of hypocrisy.
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:18 pm to boosiebadazz
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And the schism deepens.
Primary season is going to be a hoot!
you mean like the Dims rolling out the tired "R"s want to put you back in chains and starve the old folks schtik while the Repukes fire up the same ole "we're for smaller govt" bs?
Yea nothing new this TV season folks,, seen it all before.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:08 am to udtiger
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Harry said he would not do it, but because Cruz/Lee did what they were fricking elected by their constituents to do (their jobs), well...all bets were off then.
It's bullshite.
But he could´ve done what he was apparently elected to do in a less retarded way. He did what he described as holding a vote on an executive action (regarding amnesty). Except that vote failed, it wasn´t even close. Depending on who you listen to, it either failed because he´d pissed everyone off so much (half his caucaus voted against him) or because the point of order which the vote actually held on, something any member of congress could have done at any time, was a nothing point that really held no relevance in the larger picture and was the congressional equivalent of calling someone out on a message board for poor grammar.
As a Texan, I don´t recall that being part of what I signed his paychecks for. The guy is an absolutely shameless publicity whore who has built this bizarre walter mitty fantasy narrative of himself as the one man challenging all the waste and corruption of big government.
He is going to get torn a new one next year in the primaries. The question is whether the true believers will be further spun when he somehow blames everyone else (government, RINOs/¨the establishment¨ etc) for his abject failure.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:14 am
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:20 am to a want
quote:Cruz is going to have a real problem with McConnell, and this has Mitch McConnell written all over it.
If you recall, Ted Cruz also led the effort to shut down the government last year. In that instance and in this one, there was no winning play for the GOP...it was only to raise his profile at the expense of the American taxpayer. He raised $1.3 million during the shutdown quarter. What a patriot!
Paul's unbridled support of McConnell in the recent KY Senate race will come to fruition this year. Paul and Cruz will be vying for the same voter base if they decide to run. McConnell will be behind the scenes pulling strings for Paul, and ripping the rug out from under Cruz. Tough sledding for Ted.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:25 am to KCT
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Well, a want, I notice that you didn't address the core of my response to you, which focused on the object of Cruz's disdain in the first place. Namely, Obamacare.
If somehow Cruz got the votes to somehow overturn Obamacare (he didn't have them - not anywhere close) do you think the president would have signed off on that? There was no way to win. Mitch McConnell said there was no way to win. Several other senators said there was no way to win. It was all about Cruz.
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The truth about what a terrible pos legislation this was will continue to become clearer and clearer. Who knows? Even you might come to realize what a joke Obamacare is one of these days.
Whatever. It's irrelevant. Win the presidency, then repeal and replace (I'm eagerly awaiting this "replacement"). But quit whining like a bunch of pussies. I swear the far right of the republican party acts like a spoiled rotten child. "I don't like Obamacare and I have no way to overturn it, or affect change in any way right now but I'm going to hold my breath, take my ball and go home, and shut down the government over it".
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:31 am to a want
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All of those government employees were paid retroactively for not working. That's incredibly wasteful. And everybody knew it was going to happen...even Cruz. He only did it to raise his profile for 2016.
Dems havent delivered a budget in 6 years, but its Ted Cruz's fault?
Mmmmkay.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:43 am to elprez00
So...let's review:
That whole "it's Cruz's fault because Harry promised" thing? Hard to accept that when before Cruz even did anything, it was being reported:
Reid wants to confirm several controversial nominees, including Vivek Murthy, Obama’s choice to serve as the next surgeon general; Sarah Saldaña, his pick to head Immigration and Customs Enforcement; and Carolyn Colvin, his selection to lead the Social Security Administration.
He also wants to move a dozen pending district-court judicial nominees.
“We’re going to be back on Monday because Reid is insisting on these nominees at the end of a lame-duck session,” said the GOP aide.
Also, let’s do a little math. It’s a matter of historical fact that the Cruz-Lee point of order bought Reid ten hours worth of floor time on Saturday. Given that Reid was able to wrap up the session last night, what you would have to believe is that Reid would have let over two dozen important nominees just die for the sake of going home Tuesday instead of Wednesday or Thursday.
That whole "it's Cruz's fault because Harry promised" thing? Hard to accept that when before Cruz even did anything, it was being reported:
Reid wants to confirm several controversial nominees, including Vivek Murthy, Obama’s choice to serve as the next surgeon general; Sarah Saldaña, his pick to head Immigration and Customs Enforcement; and Carolyn Colvin, his selection to lead the Social Security Administration.
He also wants to move a dozen pending district-court judicial nominees.
“We’re going to be back on Monday because Reid is insisting on these nominees at the end of a lame-duck session,” said the GOP aide.
Also, let’s do a little math. It’s a matter of historical fact that the Cruz-Lee point of order bought Reid ten hours worth of floor time on Saturday. Given that Reid was able to wrap up the session last night, what you would have to believe is that Reid would have let over two dozen important nominees just die for the sake of going home Tuesday instead of Wednesday or Thursday.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:59 am to udtiger
This whole brouhaha is for one reason...to DISCREDIT and weaken the influence/power of the true Conservatives up there; I.e., the Tea Party types.
Both the Boehnor RINOS and the Progressives DESPISE the TP...and they work together to keep the status quo/big government power structure in tact.
I listened to Cruz explain his action last night; his action just shortened Reid's inevitable, Lame-duck ramming through of the nominees and pork (which the RINOS got too) which would have took a couple of more days to accomplish.
Shell game. Put ANYBODY on a stage/debate with Cruz...and watch them squirm. Smart guy...real Conservative. Loves the Constitution...which he is sworn to serve.
Both the Boehnor RINOS and the Progressives DESPISE the TP...and they work together to keep the status quo/big government power structure in tact.
I listened to Cruz explain his action last night; his action just shortened Reid's inevitable, Lame-duck ramming through of the nominees and pork (which the RINOS got too) which would have took a couple of more days to accomplish.
Shell game. Put ANYBODY on a stage/debate with Cruz...and watch them squirm. Smart guy...real Conservative. Loves the Constitution...which he is sworn to serve.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:45 am to RCDfan1950
This is how I feel now. Simply put, Ted Cruz for President in 2016.
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