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re: AP: Republicans Blame Ted Cruz For Year End Confirmations

Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:54 am to
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:54 am to
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WTF? I don't understand how any of the bullshite Senate rules work.

I don't either but shouldn't Cruz understand these rules if he's going to be shooting from both hips?
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:56 am to
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The Dems just confirmed a 37 y/o whose medical claim to fame is that he completed an internal medicine residency in 2006. They are bragging about this? They are proud of it? It's like the frigging Twilight Zone.


He has an MD from Yale School of Medicine and a MBA in Health Care Management from the Yale School of Business, is the Co Founder of Doctors for America (a healtcare reform think tank of over 15000 members), was an instructor at Harvard Medicine, is the Co founder of TrialNetworks (a cloud based network devoted to helping people find pharmaceutical trials), created the Visions program for AIDS education in the US and India

but dont let facts you could have gotten from wiki interrupt another of your typical and poorly researched posts and pseudo temper tanturm
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:58 am to
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He has an MD from Yale School of Medicine and a MBA in Health Care Management from the Yale School of Business, is the Co Founder of Doctors for America (a healtcare reform think tank of over 15000 members), was an instructor at Harvard Medicine, is the Co founder of TrialNetworks (a cloud based network devoted to helping people find pharmaceutical trials), created the Visions program for AIDS education in the US and India
hm yes that all pales in comparison to his internal medicine residency *huffs glue* /nc_tigah
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 8:59 am
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:01 am to
Who do they blame for doing the opposite of their campaign promises?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80332 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:02 am to
We knew the primaries were going to be a bloodbath on the Republican side, but it's looking more and more like Hilary isn't quite the shoo-in we once thought. Now she may just come out and drop the big hammer dick, but it's looking like she may have some challengers from the Left.

There could be some incredible fireworks on both sides come primary season.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:10 am to
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I don't either but shouldn't Cruz understand these rules if he's going to be shooting from both hips?


Oh brother.

The repubs were trying to run out the clock and rely on a desire to go home last weekend. Harry Reid had said basically, "Welp, looks like you rascally repubs have won on Barry's nominees since nobody's gonna want to come back next week if I extend this session." Cruz makes 'em stay another day and dashes hopes of sugarplum fairies and attending recitals, so it's no big deal for them to stick around for a bit more.

Lost in this discussion is the fact that Harry could have called them all back anyway, and these nominees would have never been confirmed unless the Dems used the nuclear option.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:11 am to
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There could be some incredible fireworks on both sides come primary season.


We can only hope.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:16 am to
Stop the presses, boosie. I agree with you

But, you know what I say? Let the blood flow. After 8 years of Obama, it is imperative that we elect the right person to, hopefully, right the ship. I am strongly conservative, but I am not a Republican. In fact, I despise Boehner, McConnell, and the rest of those fat-cat bureaucrats almost as much as I hate Obama, Holder, Pelosi, etc.

That's why I have no interest in electing somebody, anybody, just because they have an "R" beside their name. If we elect an establishment Republican who is content to rubber stamp the same old crap, we won't have accomplished anything.

Let the blood flow.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79288 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:27 am to
The last thing I want is a prolonged primary fight, but we're going to get one.

I'm ok with the whole "McConnell sucks" argument, I'm just not ok with the "McConnell is no different from Obama" argument, primarily because it is obscenely idiotic.

Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19380 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:30 am to
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Thanks to them, we now have at least ten more Obama appointees serving as federal judges for life and a complete radical that's purely political and unqualified as hell serving as Surgeon General.

If you really think that Harry Reid couldn't have gotten these guys confirmed without Cruz/Lee then you are crazy. There is no filibuster for judicial nominees anymore, thanks to the nuclear option. Reid could have called a vote for those nominees at any time.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19380 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:32 am to
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If you recall, Ted Cruz also led the effort to shut down the government last year. In that instance and in this one, there was no winning play for the GOP...it was only to raise his profile at the expense of the American taxpayer. He raised $1.3 million during the shutdown quarter. What a patriot!


Did you criticize Elizabeth Warren for attempting to shut down the government with her opposition to the continuing resolution?
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:38 am to
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When Cruz led the fight to defund Obamacare, it did result in a government shutdown. So what?

All of those government employees were paid retroactively for not working. That's incredibly wasteful. And everybody knew it was going to happen...even Cruz. He only did it to raise his profile for 2016.

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Meanwhile, I'm secure in knowing that any politician who draws the contempt of "a want" must be doing a lot of things right.

Whatever helps you sleep.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:39 am to
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heard Mark Levin
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kind of sad
Posted by a want
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:39 am to
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I don't either but shouldn't Cruz understand these rules if he's going to be shooting from both hips?

He understands the rules, he just doesn't care.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:40 am to
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I haven't completely made up my mind on Cruz
Let me save you some time: he's everything that is wrong with the GOP in one package.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99060 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:41 am to
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quote: Thanks to them, we now have at least ten more Obama appointees serving as federal judges for life and a complete radical that's purely political and unqualified as hell serving as Surgeon General. If you really think that Harry Reid couldn't have gotten these guys confirmed without Cruz/Lee then you are crazy. There is no filibuster for judicial nominees anymore, thanks to the nuclear option. Reid could have called a vote for those nominees at any time.


This whole attack on Cruz and Lee is premised on the idea that Reid is a man of his word who can be trusted.

That's it.

That's all.

Harry said he would not do it, but because Cruz/Lee did what they were fricking elected by their constituents to do (their jobs), well...all bets were off then.

It's bullshite.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:43 am to
If you think Cruz is all that is wrong with the GOP you are not too bright.

Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:53 am to
Well, a want, I notice that you didn't address the core of my response to you, which focused on the object of Cruz's disdain in the first place. Namely, Obamacare.

Let's see what the fallout is next month when the employer mandate is finally implemented. Why has Obama continually postponed this component of his signature legislation? You think that, just maybe, he knows what the fallout is going to be?

Let's wait and see what happens. I surely hope that you will be engaged in the discussion, if and when the bottom falls out regarding this ridiculous piece of legislation WHICH SOLVED NOTHING. We need legislation regarding the cost of quality healthcare, but all Obama did was give us a ridiculous law that only deals with insurance reform.

Stay tuned, a want. The truth about what a terrible pos legislation this was will continue to become clearer and clearer. Who knows? Even you might come to realize what a joke Obamacare is one of these days.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:29 pm to
The more liberal idiots they put forward, the more the American public sees democrats as far left loons.

If Cruz or any other Senator wants to make a statement, I don't think the blackmail of nominating bad people should stop them.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111576 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:36 pm to
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Well, the repub leadership DID trust Dingy Harry, or at least hope he'd do what he said. Ted Cruz did something almost unforgivable as a US Senator. He forced a hard vote on a ticklish issue that put many a repub senator between a rock and a hard place, and it could have been easily swept under the rug while swilling eggnog. Man, that's just low down dirty.


I think this is it. No one wanted to take a stand on the issue(s). It's unseemly to make a Senator vote on something other than his/her reelection or salary.
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