re: Anyone else feel like the “intellectual dark web” is full of hucksters?

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it's like you spend all this time dismissing anything negative said about these people

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where have i done this in this thread?

i said JP says some whacky shite and way over-extended himself trying to maximize $

Candace Owens is a fraud

i thought Milo was dead

Ben Shapiro is his own thing, but he is what he is

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as ravings from the left wing crazies that they just can't process it when someone else says, "yeah, that guy...he's fricking retarded"

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i never said you were left wing

you're just being edgy b/c that's your shtick

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i'm telling you i find it weird that they're this group of progressive people with a right wing audience.

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it's not that complicated if you don't require intellectual purity

you're making the same arguments from the left that calls them all white nationalists. like literally the same arguments

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the rubin rogan harris beterson shapiro - sphere

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you yourself called him a sell out.

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sure. i haven't listened to anything new from him in a long time, either. doesn't take away from his core message

nobody is perfect. there are no heroes. and if you expect ideological purity you better be an anarchist or an authoritarian

and the best "IDW" member is still Gad Saad, who hasn't sold out, is still on message, and is an intellectual

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he's worried about the rise of the right in response to the insane left. his goal isn't to fight cultural Marxism, it's to stop you from fighting cultural Marxism

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Well, I'm sorry, but this just isn't accurate.

He's said he's alarmed by fringe right and, that he thinks that what's driving it is the fringe left such as the cultural marxists. Hence, by definition, he opposes cultural marxism also.

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you're just being edgy b/c that's your shtick

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No it's trolling for the lulz (by himself). It's very knat-ish.

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Even if he's said some crazy things, I think Peterson says a lot that has value and a lot that speaks to people in a very positive way. I understand, and even agree with you, that his politics, at least as I have gleaned, lean too far left for my taste. However, I also fundamentally agree with him that the answers to the suffering and injustice and horrors in our world are not political or collective but individual. These are things I've always believed, but he's able to articulate them in ways that I've found extremely helpful and thought provoking. So, in that instance, his politics don't matter a bit.

None of the other individuals in the "Intellectual Dark Web" have had nearly the affect on me as Peterson, and maybe that's just because he points down a road I was already trying to walk. I do think trying to label him as a "huckster" or "charlatan" is incorrect.

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and Peterson has flat out said what he's doing that i don't like, and i think it was the mask slipping off. he's worried about the rise of the right in response to the insane left. his goal isn't to fight cultural Marxism, it's to stop you from fighting cultural Marxism. and i think that's deceptive.

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And this is just a flat out mis-characterization of Peterson's position. He's not worried about the "rise of the right", he's worried about the "rise of the far right", ie where the real stinking Nazi's come from. And if you listened to him as much as you say you did you'd know he's spent years obsessing over the rise of Nazism and Communism and how did that lead to millions upon millions of deaths. He's determined that his answer is that the individual was the primary tipping point. For better or worse that's his thesis. Disagree with it all you like, but don't try to claim that he's hiding what he's doing or why he's doing it.