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Anti-gun dims in VA squash R bill increasing punishment for crimes using guns

Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:55 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24796 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:55 am
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While Virginia Democratic lawmakers continue to advance legislation limiting the rights of legal gun owners in the state, they're also opposing Republican gun legislation — including a bill that would impose harsher sentencing minimums on those who use guns during the commission of a crime, according to Bearing Arms.

Virginia's House Public Safety Committee voted against House Bill 1175 on Tuesday. HB 1175 would send people who use or display guns while committing felonies to prison for longer amounts of time.

The bill would have established a mandatory minimum sentence of five years for the first offense (up from three), and a minimum of 10 years for the second or any subsequent offenses (up from five).

HB 1175 was one of 11 GOP-authored gun-related bills that were killed in committee this week. One bill sought to allow people injured in gun-free zones to file civil claims.

"This bill probably should be called the 'put your money where your mouth is,'" GOP Del. John McGuire said, according to WHSV-TV. "If you are in a gun-free zone, you should be able to hold the local government accountable for preventing you from doing anything in self-defense."

Another would have allowed for the carrying of guns in places of worship. Steve Birnbaum, a security team member at a local synagogue, said many places of worship don't want to be stuck waiting for law enforcement officials to arrive.

"There are some synagogues that don't even want paid security, because they don't like firearms, they don't always want off-duty officers, they don't want to pay for security, and that's their choice," Birnbaum said. "But there are synagogues that understand that law enforcement are not coming, and that they're on their own for 10 minutes, if not longer, especially in rural parts of the state."

Meanwhile, the state Senate passed a red flag gun law on a party-line vote Wednesday. That bill will go to the House for further consideration and an eventual vote.

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6522 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:05 am to
Dems only care about keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. They want their constituents out of jail as soon as possible to continue unraveling the fabric of society.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19538 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:40 am to

They don’t want to imprison their inner city voter base. They want to disarm them. Neither will happen.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21445 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:07 am to
Same principle as when Obama the Idiot, funneled weapons to the Mexican cartels. Democrats want as much gun violence as possible so the American people will demand a gun ban. They simply do not care how many people die. No morals, no worries.
Posted by badlands
Member since Apr 2008
2313 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:12 am to
What do you expect from trash?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:26 am to
Exhibit A that this whole deal has zero to do with protecting citizens.

100% a gun grab.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:09 am to
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synagogues


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don't want to pay for security


Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34958 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:28 am to
More proof for responsible Americans who love their kids, that the Dem Party will take their guns while allowing all manner of murderous heathen to roam the streets unchallenged. Think a 'Katrina' event...or if that new Flu Virus takes hold. Insane policy...that will be met with a proper response once push comes to shove. One 'Ruby Ridge' and those who push this stuff won't be able to hide behind any Law designed to protect THEM...while the righteous folk they endanger...go to the wolves.

The Left are Transnational Progressive. The have to disarm their opposition, and arm themselves...like the Fascist Islamist Mullahs; either that or give up their Global Crusade.

The election next year will be pivotal. They know it...we know it. Strap in.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:53 am to
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"There are some synagogues that don't even want paid security, because they don't like firearms, they don't always want off-duty officers, they don't want to pay for security, and that's their choice," Birnbaum said. "But there are synagogues that understand that law enforcement are not coming, and that they're on their own for 10 minutes, if not longer, especially in rural parts of the state."


What they want are fewer West Freeway Church of Christ incidents (where armed security took action) and more FBC Sutherland Springs ones (where there wasn't any and many people died).
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:58 am to
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Dems only care about keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. They want their constituents out of jail as soon as possible to continue unraveling the fabric of society.
None of this is true. The truth is that Democrats who write gun bills usually don’t know enough about guns to write gun bills.
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