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re: Another Trump win in Court - this time at DC Circuit

Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:20 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:20 am to
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Doesn't matter if congress creates something.


It completely does. Answer the question: What can the president execute without Congress creating it?

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Congress' power is the money. They can deny money for things or put money up for things but the president doesn't have to spend it, that is the next fight to win.

a. Congress's power is a lot more than "the money"

b. The Trump admin is arguing "the money" should fall under total Executive control, too, FWIW.

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The remedy for a president not doing something is the voters electing someone else if they dont like it.

Or Congress can remove the power from the President by rescinding the authority granted by statute, dissolving the agency entirely. The NLRB only exists because Congress created it. They can dissolve it just the same, and the President has no more power.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466156 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:21 am to
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Yea. Congress granted the executive branch its Article 2 powers

That's not responsive to my comment.

Congress created the NLRB.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466156 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:22 am to
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better than consolidating federal power in unelected, lifetime democrat political asshats in black robes

At least we have some role in that process.

This executive expansion consolidates power in faceless bureaucrats
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
326 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:51 am to
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It completely does. Answer the question: What can the president execute without Congress creating it?


You keep saying the same retarded things over and over again hoping they become true the more you say it, but it doesn't.

You clearly have never read the US constitution and are at the same time historically illiterate. It is quite embarrassing so if I were you I'd stop with your retarded posts and go read.

And yes the President is ordered by the constitution to "take care" that the money is legally and well spent. The constitution wouldn't say that if the president didn't have a large role also just the fact the executive is the one spending the money is a big clue. This is why you need to go read and learn instead of spout retarded nonsense.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466156 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:56 am to
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You keep saying the same retarded things over and over again hoping they become true the more you say it, but it doesn't.

You're engaging in ad homs instead of answering the question.

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You clearly have never read the US constitution and are at the same time historically illiterate. It is quite embarrassing so if I were you I'd stop with your retarded posts and go read.


More ad homs instead of answering the question.

Do you want to answer the question and participate in the discussion, or just spiral into more rhetorical dishonesty?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26086 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:10 am to
Hmmm what can The President execute without Congress? Why Counselor I'd be pleased to answer.

He can demolish the East Wing and build a Big Beautiful Ballroom.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466156 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:11 am to
That's by far the most relevant response to the question
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26086 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:14 am to
That's just one thing. But you didn't think a President could do anything did you?

Power of the Pardon would be another example.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 9:16 am
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
326 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 11:58 am to
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instead of answering the question.


That's your problem, you think it is my job to explain USA Republic 101 to a retard on the internet. Take my advice and go read and learn.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7904 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:50 pm to
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That's it. So clearly ALL executive power is in the hands of one man, by design of the constitution. Anything limiting that is unconstitutional and would need an amendment to change.


Despite sfp crying all the time - the actual workings of the constitution allow congress to use the purse to determine what can or not be used by the executive branch
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