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re: Andrew Yang wants Thorium Reactors by 2027

Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:31 pm to
Gawd, I can't believe there are so many pages in this post. Tomorrow I will sift through it but I wish post #1 would have laid out the advantage in a Thorium reactor. I'm assuming the by products are more stable and have shorter half lives? Otherwise I don't have a clue?? Thorium is more abundant as a fuel?? WTF?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:41 pm to
Ge largely plans to pay for it with a value added tax (as well as decreased costs in other programs) coupled with increased economic activity through the people using the money and getting taxed on it.

So, the buying power of 92% (I think that is the figure) of americans will increase even with the implementation of the value added tax - which is a way to collect tax on companies like amazon, etc. Who are able to show minimal profits despite huge value and production.

One way I think about it is that these companies dont employ the same number of people as big companies did 50 years ago and a lot of positions are 1099 / gog work without benefits. So we need to evolve in the way our tax system work to account for today's world. And giving that money directly to the people is a better use than bigger govt or increased bureaucracy.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I'm assuming the by products are more stable and have shorter half lives? Otherwise I don't have a clue?? Thorium is more abundant as a fuel??


Based on my limited understanding, all of those are true (or believed to be true once it is functional)
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:55 pm to
Any of these whining enviro-leftists and teenagers that are freaking out about CO2, if they don’t mention Thorium in the next breath, you know they are liars with ulterior motives (or deeply ignorant about energy density.)

Molten salt reactors and thorium could have solved this problem since the 1960s when oak ridge built one and ran it for five years. Our STUPID federal government has been in the way of innovation all along.

You can mine thorium in your back yard. It is literally everywhere, and the supply is endless.

Molten salt reactors are completely safe, there is no such thing a meltdown, they can be made to fit on a semi truck and delivered anywhere, the waste is few ounces per lifetime.

And frick government money. If they just GET OUT OF THE WAY, existing private enterprises can have this technology up and running within 10 years.

So absurd that all this hasn’t happened years ago.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:41 pm to
You’re replying to a Government worker that specializes in using other people’s money
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:16 pm to
I truly dont understand how people can say climate change is their biggest concern and still be anti nuclear - even disregarding thorium. This isnt the 60's and they are much, much safer. If climate change is an "existential threat" as they like to say, any perceived negative of nuclear is far outweighed by continued reliance in fossil fuels.

I really just dont think the elected officials understand technology and new advancements to any degree. They largely spend their working lives as a part of the political class and have no exposure.

They havent even had a congressional committee to discuss technological advancements and their potential impact since like 19995 (really bad time to stop paying attention).
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9484 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:53 pm to
When you see something other than a Silicon Valley computer simulation that says it works and is economically viable, let me know. Otherwise total bullshite hype
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49299 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:07 pm to
Check out when Joe Rogan on him on as a guest he brings up about how automation is killing field for certain groups especially truckers
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:34 pm to
Exactly, it's not necessarily about general AI, which is certainly far off. But automation and systems optimization alone will continue to significantly decrease the number of labor hours necessary to perform the same functions in the economy.

Not to get into some futurist post, but the transition period is what will need to be managed as whole sectors and types of work become obsolete or automated away and the current workforce is caught in the middle while education trends towards new types of work / jobs which will arise.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 10:09 am
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