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re: Andrew Yang wants Thorium Reactors by 2027

Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:24 pm to
Nah... just messing around.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Andrew Yang wants Thorium Reactors by 2027


How in the f**k does he think we can turn the Norse god of thunder into an energy source? I know that we put a man on the moon, but trying to steal energy from a god is just a bridge too far.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26614 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:30 pm to
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public intellectuals — Al Gore, Bill McKibben, Naomi Klein. They are highly-educated, do extensive research, and publish in fact-checked publications like...The New York Times.


Pure idiocy right there.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76435 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:49 pm to
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I just don't know that the GOP had much of a backbone in dealing with Obama.
They stuffed him on everything.

Granted, they couldn't pass anything either.

But as a libertarian, I always pull for gridlock.

Doing nothing led to the economic recovery. . .there, I said it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Yang is the most visionary candidate for sure


Here's one of his visionary ideas.

Picture shows a hand with 10 100 dollar bills in it. Just think...Andy will give you that every single month of the rest of your life!


Andrew Yang??
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@AndrewYang

This is what $1,000 looks like. Imagine getting it once a month. We can make the #FreedomDividend real for every American.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Has one actually been built yet? If not this is more like all those Silicon Valley computer simulated process that didn't work making alternative energy


They're trying one in India..a place with the most available thorium reserves.
Not working very well.
But Andy can figure it out...he's a visionary!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Yes. This isn't necessarily a technological hurdle so much as a political one.


Where is it and how is it working?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:19 pm to
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Apparently the only operational one is in India. It doesn't compete economically and produces a LOT of radioactive waste.


That^
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:20 pm to
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I think we could do better than India



Why is that?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:21 pm to
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How in the f**k does he think we can turn the Norse god of thunder into an energy source?


It's the hammer. We can copy the hammer if we have enough vision and hope.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Pure idiocy right there.



He's clearly being sarcastic and it's pure idiocy on your part if you didn't pick up on that.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Why is that?


Because we're more educated and technologically advanced than India? We're capable of achieving much more if we focused on this.

It appears you have 0 desire to contribute anything here and just want to be completely useless.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:42 pm to
While I still think we need a Manhattan Project II to solve fusion once and for all, fission is the intermediate step.

I reject climate alarmism and I also accept we will likely consume all the accessible fossil fuels, either for fuel or in manufacturing of plastics/synthetics. However, at some point - in the 22nd or 23rd century, we will be out of fossil fuels, except some coal.

Nuclear fission is the bridge to either fusion, some futuristic orbital high efficiency solar that can be transmitted wirelessly to the surface or geothermal/seismic/tidal energy or some combination.

We could continue with fission, relatively cleanly for a couple of centuries (or more) assuming we can solve the waste and battery issues. Of course, many legacy fission technologies are susceptible to misuse for nuclear weapons, but we're going to have to deal with that anyway - might as well get plentiful energy out of the exchange.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 2:44 pm to
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Electing Trump led to the economic recovery. . .there, I said it.


FTFY
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:02 pm to
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It's going to happen anyway
Sorry. I don't think denying reality and physics is a winning recipe for anything. But if you want to be ruled by the irrational and wasteful... why not move to Europe?

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Stubborn mindsets like this will lead to poorer outcomes
Lack of rational mindsets like mine, and appeasement mindsets like yours led to Hitler taking over much of Europe.

Come back when you have an argument of merit not of surrender to irrational whims of politicians.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:04 pm to
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One has tangible value and the others are nonsense
Small thinker. All we need is more government funding. They are going to spend it anyway, right?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Because we're more educated and technologically advanced than India? We're capable of achieving much more if we focused on this.


And?

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It appears you have 0 desire to contribute anything here and just want to be completely useless.


"Thats just, like, your opinion, man"
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That said, I just asked some questions, the "contribution" part would be the answers, to which you contributed zero.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:11 pm to
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We spend roughly 7 billion a year on green energy subsidies
So we spend about ~$1.3-sh trillion on electricity generation. While $7B sounds like a lot... it works out to about 0.5% of the total electricity market. No one's decommissioning perfectly operating power plants for that.

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Completely eliminate that over a 10 year period and divert a portion of those funds to investing in nuclear infrastructure and you get a much better return on investment.
You still haven't explained how you get any "return on investment" by creating more supply of an already oversupplied commodity.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:11 pm to
So he wants something that any kook supporters he might add to his 2% would not let happen?

WTF is this waste of time?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:31 pm to
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This is what $1,000 looks like. Imagine getting it once a month. We can make the #FreedomDividend real for every American. 

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The idea actually has merit if you look at it more. I'm not saying everyone should agree with UBI, but there are a lot of conservative and capitalist benefits.

I see it almost as a check on capitalism, like anti-trust laws, to make sure a larger portion of the population has real purchasing power. I think the growing wealth gap, if it continues to expand, can negatively impact how our markets can function. (This doesnt take into account the changing value in our economy relative to technology, data, etc., which will also impact our economy in ways we cant predict).

Its not a punitive tax on wealth or advancement and I think can be very popular and feasible. A lot of argument goes into the thought that other people will use the money irresponsibly, but I think most would use it to improve their lives and in terms of effective impact of the dollar cost, it would be far superior to most govt endeavors.

ETA: He has a lot of really good ideas on other issues as well. The freedom dividend isnt even the main reason I support him, I'm still uncertain if it would have the impact he sees. He seems to be someone who truly wants to bring the country together, which I think we really need.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 7:43 pm
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