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re: Andrew Yang wants Thorium Reactors by 2027

Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:06 pm to
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exploring thorium reactor tech


I thought we had these in Antarctica?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
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I thought we had these in Antarctica?



I'm sure you can mine thorium there but I don't see why there would be any reactors there

Did you get this from the Q thread or something?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
I'm a huge yang fan, a lot of people just sumarrily dismiss him and his ideas - but if you dig deeper there is a lot good substance and forward thinking.

One of the biggest reasons I support him is that I think he would attempt to make changes to give more political power back to the voters and restore the public trust in our democracy.

Also, our political class are too old and dont understand technology. The questions they ask during these congressional hearings are all you need to see to realize they dont even understand fairly simple concepts such as net neutrality. They dont even have a committee to regulate and review technological advancements and how they may impact our society as they come about.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:20 pm to
Also if anyone is curious about some of his positions / policies I'd be happy to answer. I try not to inject yang all over the place on this board, but am happy to talk with curious or open minded people
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:31 pm to
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It's about replacing existing means of generation like coal/natural gas and renewables with cheaper and more environmentally friendly options.
Oh. So you're a proponent of wasting perfectly operating infrastructure at tax payer expense. Makes sense. Malinvestment *is* the way to build wealth. Brilliant plan.

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You might think that climate change is complete nonsense but there are a lot of powerful people that don't think it's nonsense and they're going to address it one way or the other. I'd prefer they address it in a more practical way that won't cause electricity prices to soar and in a way that doesn't waste global mineral resources on pipe dreams.
Ah yes. The "maybe if we surrender fast enough they will be nice to us" argument. No thanks.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Why aren't you writing checks and/or getting VC money?
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I pay taxes. I have a preference on how those taxes are utilized, particularly when it comes to energy issues.
You've confused confiscation of wealth with building of wealth.

Your claim was "And you could find the money for that by immediately eliminating all renewable initiatives at the federal level." Do you believe that, or not?

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I'm just some middle class guy. I'm not going to be funding energy research.
Jeff Bezos started in an 8x12 shared office space... what's stopping you, if this is so easy?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Oh. So you're a proponent of wasting perfectly operating infrastructure at tax payer expense. Makes sense. Malinvestment *is* the way to build wealth. Brilliant plan.


I'm all about taxpayers funding exploratory research into technologies that are too expensive/not profitable for the private sector to pursue.. provided that research is made public or available.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:38 pm to
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I'm all about taxpayers funding exploratory research into technologies that are too expensive/not profitable for the private sector to pursue.. provided that research is made public or available.
So generous with other peoples money. How noble of you.

But why Thorium reactors and not something like turning sand into gold? Or stopping aging or time travel? As long as it's made public...
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:44 pm to
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So generous with other peoples money. How noble of you.

That's your typical government worker
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Oh. So you're a proponent of wasting perfectly operating infrastructure at tax payer expense. Makes sense. Malinvestment *is* the way to build wealth. Brilliant plan.

It's going to happen anyway

Whether you want it to or not

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Ah yes. The "maybe if we surrender fast enough they will be nice to us" argument. No thanks.


Stubborn mindsets like this will lead to poorer outcomes
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:53 pm to
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That's your typical government worker



I work in the private sector

I don't support using additional funds for this research. I support diverting existing funds in that direction and moving away from subsidies for pipe dreams.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:54 pm to
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But why Thorium reactors and not something like turning sand into gold? Or stopping aging or time travel? As long as it's made public...


You love being annoying and useless don't you?

One has tangible value and the others are nonsense
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:54 pm to
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I work in the private sector

I was referring to bmy
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29134 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:55 pm to
Yang is the most visionary candidate for sure
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Your claim was "And you could find the money for that by immediately eliminating all renewable initiatives at the federal level." Do you believe that, or not?


We spend roughly 7 billion a year on green energy subsidies

Completely eliminate that over a 10 year period and divert a portion of those funds to investing in nuclear infrastructure and you get a much better return on investment.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9352 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:58 pm to
Has one actually been built yet? If not this is more like all those Silicon Valley computer simulated process that didn't work making alternative energy
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Has one actually been built yet?

Yes. This isn't necessarily a technological hurdle so much as a political one.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9352 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:04 pm to
Apparently the only operational one is in India. It doesn't compete economically and produces a LOT of radioactive waste.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Apparently the only operational one is in India. It doesn't compete economically and produces a LOT of radioactive waste.


I think we could do better than India

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Apparently the only operational one is in India.

They have something like 25% of the world's Thorium reserves
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