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re: And just like that...Trump wins again

Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:43 am to
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3821 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:43 am to
Obama created the problem by giving them $.
Trump did what all the other presidents talked about doing, but didn't have the balls to do.
Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
864 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:46 am to
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1559 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:48 am to
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The only win is if there is regime change.


First off, you are AGAINST a regime change in Iran. So that would be a loss for you.

Second, it was never part of the mission. The mission was to stop them from getting nukes.

Mission accomplished.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77349 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:50 am to
They have a giant hole in the ground where their meager uranium stockpile is winning a game of hide & seek.

USSF has satellites parked over the entire region. If Iran so much as has a Tonka truck delivered from Amazon to one of those former enrichment sites, they are getting the stick all over again.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1559 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:50 am to
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but yeah woohoo we won i guess?


Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29883 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:51 am to
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First off, you are AGAINST a regime change in Iran


No I'm not. I would call that a win. As I have said.

But, like Charlie Kirk, I dont believe that was our place to make happen. It wasn't our war. We just did as daddy Bibi said to. We encouraged and aided in a slaughter of SO much innocent blood. It was an unforced error.

quote:

Second, it was never part of the mission. The mission was to stop them from getting nukes


Media lemming.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37424 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:54 am to
Wait, he spends 200+ billion on a bombing campaign that in effect got us nothing????? The Straits of Hormuz were open prior to all of this. Now he has Iran openly calling shots there and we are the guarantors. Then we are going to spend 20 billion on 2000 kilos of enriched possible weapons grade which would have been above market price for 60 % HALEU? At best it's a billion dollars

This isn't a deal. It's something else
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7222 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:54 am to
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They have a giant hole in the ground where their meager uranium stockpile is winning a game of hide & seek.

USSF has satellites parked over the entire region. If Iran so much as has a Tonka truck delivered from Amazon to one of those former enrichment sites, they are getting the stick all over again.



whatever you say bro, i guess the satellites missed some in June when they "totally obliterated" it. they definitely got it this time though! good thing you learned that from your trusty tv that is honest to you and not to me
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13097 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:04 am to
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Their navy was irrelevant. Their airforce was irrelevant. Their missiles were irrelevant mostly. So, what. We allowed Israel to commit genocide so we could blow up old military ships WE gave them back in the 80's and steal some magic dust we didn't really need and they couldn't use? IF Iran's government falls and totally changes, that would be a considerable success at the fate of many innocent people... but, it would be a victory. Their military power was always something we could have erased because it never posed a threat to us. It's like putting a ball on layaway when you're playing pool. No one is impressed you knocked the 5 ball in the corner that you left there to block any good shots until it was convenient.


If Biden had made all the same moves our lefty friends would be talking about what a steady hand he had in protecting our ally Israel, our western European allies, and our own Americans stationed in those areas, and they would be praising him for ending the Iranian nuclear threat. But but since it was Trump that did it, it’s a bad thing.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19271 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:09 am to
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they still have uranium

Do we really know that the downed pilot rescue wasn’t also used as a uranium extract mission?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19134 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:11 am to
Trump should know what he’s doing as that Time Machine brought him back
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37424 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 11:28 am to
Your whataboutism is getting old. Biden is not running the show, if he ever did, but this is not some sort of momentus deal. He's overpaying for the Uranium while leaving us at a deficit of key weapons systems like tomahawks, etc. He explod the price of oil in the meantime and got a status quo ante strategically for his trouble. Straits are back open which Iran prior to getting bombed was not closing. On top of that he has Iran selling oil on the market again. I wonder if he gets US companies to extract the uranium and we pay for it on top of everything.

Create the chaos, then end the chaos and bring everything back to how it was strategically prior to the chaos you started but now want credit for solving. Meanwhile you spent a lot of money to gain nothing. Same group of butchers in place only now they will have more money to use first to upgrade damaged infrastructure .

Whereas I'm not seeing a definitive loss, I'm not really seeing anything like a real win, either.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13097 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Your whataboutism is getting old. Biden is not running the show, if he ever did, but this is not some sort of momentus deal. He's overpaying for the Uranium while leaving us at a deficit of key weapons systems like tomahawks, etc. He explod the price of oil in the meantime and got a status quo ante strategically for his trouble. Straits are back open which Iran prior to getting bombed was not closing. On top of that he has Iran sell…


You don’t know what whataboutism means.

You don’t seem to know much else either.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37424 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:16 pm to
Enlighten us wise sage.
Where am I wrong or ignorant of things
Please be specific, so I know you know what you are talking about.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1559 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:56 pm to
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No I'm not.


Yes you are.

In any case, it was never part of the mission. The mission was to stop them from getting nukes
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29883 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:34 pm to
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Yes you are.

In any case, it was never part of the mission. The mission was to stop them from getting nukes


Literally none of that is true.
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