re: And I thought the Left had wack jobs

This faction of people on the right that believe all the nonsense spewed forth by Owens, Fuentes, Carlson and their ilk need to stop watching these lunatics. Just because they said it doesn't make it remotely true.

Do you really think Macron's wife is a man? The French government sent a hit team after Owens led by a Mossad agent? CO is still alive and kicking as far as I know. Hitler was cool and the Joos are the cause of all the problems in the world today. Does that sound remotely reasonable to you people?

You folks need to get a grip on reality. This makes you look like complete idiots and does no service to the right at all.

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You still haven't addressed his single greatest guarantor for his loyalty to the US

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So you don’t understand what a thought experiment is, clown.

Let me give to you that YES, you are 100% correct that Shapiro’s allegiance is indeed toward Israel…..FIRST!

Hence the thought experiment, dumb arse. Like I explained earlier but you’re too fricking stupid to have any reading comprehension.

Other than Israel, other than him being a Zionist, what other explicit things that he said,NOT PERTAINING to Israel, what did he say that was wrong?

Got it now, dumb arse? You get what a thought experiment is, like I explained? I’ll hand up and listen.

Ah, once again, the stupid frick that has no comprehension skills. Let me try to help you one last time, you fricking child.

Everyone of us that has someone we admire, says sometimes along the way, that is indeed stupid shite.

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That we aren't allowed to retire at 65 and we aren't guaranteed to live where we grew up or where are families are buried.

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I agree that was stupid!

Do the people you follow or admire ever say anything that you very much disagree with or do you blindly accept every single thing they say?

I know you don’t like it and I realize you’re not capable of understanding it because you are mentally immature. But going back to the ‘thought experiment’ which many people and physicists do all the time, which you are having a hard time with, in my proposed thought experiment I said, and I quote……now pay attention here, little boy…..
“ what one other thing that he said at TPUSA was wrong?”

At TPUSA!!!!!!! Not other interviews or things he’s said in the past.

Now I can’t respond to anymore of your bullshite, not only because you are incapable of tracking, but I need to go now for my daily routine of worshipping at the alter of war and blood.

The Republican Party, which was once the Party of Ronald Reagan, is being taken over by grifters and con artist.

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So you lost?

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OMG. I can’t believe I actually fell for this. I’ve been arguing with a bot. Because there is no way on God’s green Earth that an actual human being can be this fricking stupid and clueless.

This is absolutely totally on me. I believed I was dealing with a somewhat, yet highly limited mentally functioning human. My bad.

I’m pissed I can’t get my last 15 or so minutes back in my life. I take total blame for being this stupid.

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Candace is probably a few days from blaming you and me of being behind the Kirk assassination.

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OMG. Seriously. I can’t believe I actually fell for this. I’ve been arguing with a bot. Because there is no way on God’s green Earth that an actual human being can be this fricking stupid and clueless. This is absolutely totally on me. I believed I was dealing with a somewhat, yet highly limited mentally functioning human. My bad. I’m pissed I can’t get my last 15 or so minutes back in my life. I take total blame for being this stupid.

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I gave an answer- you pivot to thought experiment.

I gave another answer- you pivot to thought experiment at TPUSA.

I gave another answer- you pivot to bot.

Yet, YOU never gave one single fricking answer of why you're on your knees blowing Ben fricking Shapiro!

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Serious question because I may have missed it, did he say this at TPUSA?

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No, he was busy chastising Christians for daring to question the liberal interpretations of scripture he and others have used for decades to guilt Americans into sacrificing their children and wealth for the enrichment of Israel.

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Forgive my confirmation bias. However, in fairness to FirstSergeant1 he wasn’t aware he was dealing with a brain dead bot.

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Ad Hom. Deflect.

Alright, I will try again, seriously in good faith, one last time.

So let me start with this. I cannot debate with any of you that believe Ben Shapiro is a Zionist and puts the United States second behind his loyalty to Israel. Another, he wants to draw the United States into a war with Iran. You might very well be totally right!

All of this I will give to you. All of it!

The reason I brought up the dreaded, hard to comprehend ‘thought experiment’ which I made very clear was to ignore that Ben was a Jew or anything doing with Israel, was to address the current situation going on in the Conservative movement.

Let me ask this of you. Let’s just for this specific subject, let’s pretend Ben Shapiro didn’t give this speech. Let’s pretend either Charlie Kirk or Joe Blow gave this speech. Is this speech wrong?

I entered this into ChatGPT and asked it to analyze the speech and show where his concerns for the Conservative movement are.

Here is ChatGPT’s response and I agree with it totally.

Not knowing anything at all about who gave this speech……if you read it, would you agree with it. Forget totally who gave the speech!!!! Is the speech correct in your opinion?

Okay, here is the response from ChatGPT……..

Below is a focused extraction of the parts of Ben Shapiro’s AmericaFest 2025 speech where he is explicitly warning that the conservative movement is damaging itself from within. I am not summarizing the whole speech—only isolating his internal-critique argument, with representative quotes.

I’ll organize this by threat category, because that’s how Shapiro is actually structuring his warning, even when he isn’t using those labels explicitly.

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1. The Conservative Movement Is in “Serious Danger” — From Within

Shapiro is unambiguous that the threat is not just external.

“Today the conservative movement is in serious danger. It is in danger, not just from a left that all too frequently excuses everything up to and including murder.”

Then comes the key pivot:

“The conservative movement is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of principle but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty.”

He defines these figures as:
• Frauds
• Grifters
• People who offer “nothing but bile and despair”
• People who undermine conservatism itself

“They are something worse than that: a danger to the only movement capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale.”

This is the central thesis of the speech.

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2. Conspiracism Is Actively Rotting the Movement

Shapiro repeatedly argues that vagueness, implication, and ‘just asking questions’ rhetoric is corrosive.

A. Vague Accusations Fuel Rage, Not Solutions

“When people say ‘they shot Charlie’ without specifying whom they mean, they are trafficking in vagueness that results in increased hatred without proposing any effective response.”

He argues this:
• Creates rage
• Fosters despair
• Makes the situation worse, not better

This is not a rhetorical critique—it’s a strategic warning.

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B. “Just Asking Questions” Is Dishonest Manipulation

“Just asking questions is something my 5-year-old does… when grown men and women spend their days just asking questions without seeking answers, they are lying to you.”

He escalates the charge:

“They are seeding distrust in the world around you and enervating you in the process.”

This is Shapiro saying plainly:
• You are being weakened, not empowered
• Distrust is being weaponized
• The audience is being made stupider, not smarter

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3. Refusal to Name Names Is Cowardice—and It’s Spreading

Shapiro is explicit that silence is not neutrality.

“The people who refuse to condemn Candace’s truly vicious attacks… are guilty of cowardice. Yes, cowardice.”

He adds:

“Politics is not the sisterhood of the traveling pants. Politics is about principle.”

And this is key:

“If you are willing to sacrifice basic truth and simple principle in favor of emotional solidarity, you have betrayed your fundamental duty to the American people.”

Damage identified:
• Fear of backlash overrides truth
• Influencers protect each other
• Moral clarity collapses

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4. Platforming Extremists Is Poisoning Conservatism

Shapiro draws a straight line between who you elevate and what the movement becomes.

“Hosts are responsible for the guests they choose and the questions they ask.”

He explicitly warns that:
• Elevating trolls
• Normalizing extremists
• “Glazing” figures like Fuentes or Tate

…is not edgy populism, but moral collapse.

“Building him up is an act of moral imbecility.”

This is not about disagreement—it’s about movement self-sabotage.

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5. Evidence-Free Claims Destroy Trust in Legitimate Institutions

Shapiro’s argument here is strategic, not emotional.

“When you claim a special providence to information you won’t let people see, you build your power and leave them with none.”

He warns this causes:
• Distrust of good actors
• Loss of institutional credibility
• Cynicism toward even allies

“You haven’t gotten smarter. You’ve just been manipulated.”

This is one of the harshest indictments in the speech.

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6. Despair Culture Is Making Conservatives Passive and Weak

This is one of the most important—but least discussed—sections.

“If you truly come to believe that nothing in your life is in your control, you can’t even take control of your own life.”

He connects conspiracy culture directly to:
• Personal paralysis
• Political nihilism
• Cultural defeatism

“The lie kills. Not just your future, but the country we’ve been given.”

This is a warning that doom-obsession is anti-conservative at its core.

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7. Unity Without Truth Is Fake—and Unsustainable

Shapiro explicitly rejects “unity at all costs” thinking.

“Unity without truth is no unity. It is merely solidarity in falsehood.”

Later, answering a student question:

“Unity has to be reliant on first principles.”

His concern:
• Coalitions without shared values collapse
• Movements without truth implode
• Appeasement accelerates division

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8. The Core Damage He Sees

If you reduce Shapiro’s warning to its essence, it is this:

The conservative movement is damaging itself by:
• Replacing truth with grievance
• Replacing evidence with implication
• Replacing courage with silence
• Replacing solutions with despair
• Replacing principles with personalities

Or in his words:

“Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is lying to you—and they are making your life worse in the process.”

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Closing Observation (Analytical, Not Rhetorical)

This speech is not primarily about Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, or specific figures.

It is a movement-level warning that conservatism can lose moral authority, intellectual seriousness, and cultural credibility even while believing it is winning.

That is the damage Shapiro is most concerned about—and the reason this speech is unusually blunt, even by his standards.