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re: Ancient Stone Carvings-Comet(s) Hitting Earth app.10,950 BC (p14, Shermer concedes...)

Posted on 4/27/19 at 12:47 am to
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 12:47 am to
A downvote already? Just a question.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 12:47 am to
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Larps tell you what to think. TPA simply provides information for people to research and come up with their own conclusions.



Yeah of course there's never any information brought up by TPA that isn't specifically designed to steer you towards a conclusion. Really TPA is just like an encyclopedia, constantly throwing out random facts until we make our own conclusion. There's certainly no theme. Lol

It's funny how you guys are so willing to accept this secret deep state government controlling all of these different disinformation campaigns and attempts at globalism Etc but a person that is literally putting propaganda out in front of you everyday is the one thats "just sayin."

I guess lie to yourself all day long but don't lie to me
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 1:11 am to
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If something happens and the electricity goes out permanently tomorrow, I'm sure you will teach your kids to read. Can you teach them quantum physics?


Easily
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 5:44 am to
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Easily


No you can't.

If you can, you are doing them a big disservice.

Knowing Quantum Physics only pays off in a certain kind of world, such as we have now.

If your world is growing food in a garden you made with a digging stick (you starve if you don't) Quantum Physics is useless.

If your world is watching a herd of goats so a wolf, coyote, or bobcat doesn't snag one, Quantum Physics is a waste of time.

Frankly you'd be better off teaching your kids to fish.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117686 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 5:52 am to
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We will enjoy your melting over the next few months. It's GONNA happen.



Based off what I’ve read in some of the links from TPA in this thread, I really hope you’re wrong.

I’m gonna go cry until my kids wake up.

:/
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 6:42 am to
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Knowing Quantum Physics only pays off in a certain kind of world, such as we have now.

If your world is growing food in a garden you made with a digging stick (you starve if you don't) Quantum Physics is useless.

If your world is watching a herd of goats so a wolf, coyote, or bobcat doesn't snag one, Quantum Physics is a waste of time.



Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 6:45 am to
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I would like to think that in our advanced stage we have kept necessary documents and information in safe places in the event of a worldwide disaster in order to rebuild. Information pertaining to medical care, electricity, technology, etc that is necessary for developed nations



https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/30-million-page-library-is-heading-to-the-moon-to-help-preserve-human-civilization/82388449/



https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/30-million-page-library-heading-moon-help-preserve-human-civilization-ncna977786

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A 30-million page library is heading to the moon to help preserve human civilization
The massive archive is aboard Israel's Beresheet spacecraft.


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When Israel’s Beresheet spacecraft launched toward the moon last week, it was carrying a mysterious cargo. Mission planners called it a time capsule but hinted that that wasn’t the whole story. Now the truth is out: The little lunar probe carries a 30-million-page archive of human knowledge etched into a DVD-size metal disc.

The Lunar Library, as the archive is known, constitutes a “civilization backup” to help ensure that our distant descendants never lose humanity's collective wisdom, according to Nova Spivack, co-founder of Arch Mission Foundation, the Los Angeles-based nonprofit behind the project. The foundation is building a space-based archive designed to survive for 6 billion years or more — a million times longer than the oldest written records in existence today.




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One of the primary evolutionary challenges that we face is amnesia about our past mistakes, and the lack of active countermeasures to repeating them,” Spivack said in an email. “For the survival of our species, we need to find ways to raise our awareness of what worked and didn't work, and we need to ensure it is shared with the people of the future.”


I have made the same claims (along with many others)
We are not the pinnacle of the process. We are a reboot. Folks who look at things sincerely come to similar conclusions

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Paul Davies, director of the Beyond Center for Fundamental Concepts in Physics at Arizona State University, regards the Lunar Library as mostly symbolic, yet still important. “It encourages people to reflect on humankind's place in the universe,” he said, and to rethink how we search for evidence of nonhuman civilizations, too.

If we can leave records on the moon for a huge duration, maybe E.T. will have done the same,” Davies said, adding that it might make sense for humans to look for alien artifacts on the moon or other locations.


The moon itself is a big “look at me” artifact staring us in the face
I have made arguments elsewhere that the moon is not a 100% natural body (augmented vs artificial)



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NOW ENTERING THE AGE OF IMMORTALITY

The beginnings of the far-flung space library Spivack envisions are already out there, of course, starting with the cosmic maps aboard NASA’s Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft and the Golden Record affixed to the Voyager probes in the 1970s. Spivack’s goal is to flood the solar system with other versions of the Lunar Library: in caves and mountains on Earth, on other locations on the moon, on Mars and in deep space. The Beresheet craft recently hit a glitch that has delayed its journey to the moon, but Spivack isn’t worried. Even if Beresheet fails, the Arch Foundation is already in discussions with other organizations about their upcoming space missions, including a lunar landing planned by the company Astrobotic.

Spivack can only speculate about what lessons far-future humans will need to relearn when they recover the libraries, and what kind of crises the knowledge in the Lunar Library might help avert. But he sees the benefits of his project already. “By placing an archive of every past and present civilization on the moon, we can now say that civilization itself is on the moon,” he said. I want everyone to be able to look up at the moon and realize that humanity is now multiplanetary. This is a small shift in perspective with profound implications.”


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The lunatic is on the grass
The lunatic is on the grass
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs
Got to keep the loonies on the path
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 6:53 am to
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You love connecting dots and trying to make big grandiose statements but it never really pans out. I've been bookmarking all of your wrong statements for some time now.




I am not fearful of being “wrong”
This is an expectation of a person of true science

Being “right” is the arena of a politician (where failure and being wrong is not interpreted/accepted as getting closer to the truth)

FWIW I am not hoping for a cataclysm/ worshiping doom eschatology

There are many strange stories making the mainstream
I do try to connect broad dots that others do not dare tread into. They are the big questions. The sad thing is that this used to be a common pursuit historically. We have become so compartmentalized that each compartment is critical of other compartment thinking outside the box. Very few can see the whole picture. If they do and it is an uncommon perspective they are call loons/marginalized...

You are more than welcome to point out when I am wrong
PS: please buy my non existent book and exit through my non existent gift shop

This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 6:56 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 7:41 am to
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Its why NA political structures were based on large alliances of tribes, no one tribe had the sheer population to overwhelm all of its neighbors.

Initial European explorers wrote about the coasts being lined with native villages but later settlers reported desolate wilderness. The culprit would appear to be a massive depopulation of the native tribes by the introduction of illnesses.

Europeans, thanks to trade, had been exposed to illnesses from all over the world so in essence we dumped the combined sickness of Europe, Asia, and Africa on North America.

Estimates say somewhere close to 90% of the population died off in just 60 years.To make matters worse the tribes didn't get to rebuild their strength and resettle lost areas because colonists were constantly arriving. It is why colonizing the East coast and Midwest was so easy, we were more or less just moving into farm ready land the natives had left behind.


When it comes to the N American Indian population, the pre colonial numbers have a massive range. I've seen estimates as low as 2 million for the entirety of NA. That's a low population density for such a massive territory.

There were no parts of colonization of the Midwest that were easy. In fact, there were no parts of colonization anywhere that were "prepared" or "easy", especially not farming. The natives were not in any way advanced agriculturalists, and their role in early colonial food procurement,while important, was extremely limited. The NA natives were so primitive that in most cases their survival strategy was to exhaust the game and soil of an area, then pack up and move on to a nearby area. This level of civilization is essentially the camping /hunter gatherer lifestyle. No nearly efficient enough to sustain the requirements of the European colonists.

It's difficult for anyone to really know that much about societies that built very few stone structures and had limited stoneworking skills. At Carlson has spoken about, it doesn't take long for the earth to reclaim man's creations, except where they are made of stone. We certainly find remnants of the native population through their use of stone arrowheads, tools, and other items. We have the mounds, which are found across the range of the native population in the east. We have homes carved in rock out west. Anyone who hasn't looked at these cool remnants is missing out. It's fascinating to imagine that life in NA was so primitive while across the ocean, there were dozens of advanced civilizations that had already come and gone. (Also, as kingbob has covered before, meso and South American civilizations)

But my point in saying this is that these were extremely primitive societies relative to the Europeans. The idea that something must have "happened" to the natives is a bit presumptive IMO. I think it's much more likely that the colonists arrived to find the natives of the relatively densely populated east coast, and therefore their estimates concerning just how successful the native population was on the continent was somewhat overshot. The idea that NA was a land developed by Indians, who were conquered or killed by European disease is a little bit much IMO. (I'm not saying you think this, but it is a popular idea)
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 7:47 am to
Hancock is a good listen and has some good ideas but if he will lie about Egyptian complexes at moundville then he’ll lie about anything.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56302 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 7:51 am to
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I am not fearful of being “wrong”

Of course not. You won't accept being wrong, so you'll never acknowledge it. Because you're a chick.

We're going to lose freedoms because of people like you.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:46 am to
Clicked the link to the first pdf and now have phishing walmart, YouTube and I've won takeovers. Careful.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:09 am to
Same.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:25 am to
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Clicked the link to the first pdf and now have phishing walmart, YouTube and I've won takeovers. Careful.



Changed link in OP due to concerns reported with prior site
Clarify if this was the link of concern (I started the thread quite a while back)
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 10:39 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:38 am to
Many of my threads are converging...

From the loons at Oxford/ Oxford professor..

FWIW I think man made climate change is a head fake to divert attention away from more cataclysmic scenarios

It was designed to have flaws and be controversial (creating a dismissive attitude)
It’s intent may be a big money / resource grab to prep for what may be coming

https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2019/04/26/oxford-professors-theory-on-climate-change-and-alien-abduction/

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Oxford Professor Argues Invisible Aliens Are Interbreeding With Humans
News
University News
26th April 2019 The News Team


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Dr Chi claims that aliens share our biosphere and are acting to overcome the effects of climate change.
Dr Chi outlined his views in a 2012 lecture and has since written a book. In April 2018,
Dr Chi approached The Oxford Union to propose a debate on the subject. The proposal was not accepted.


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The Oxford Student has learnt that Dr Young-hae Chi, Professor at Oxford’s Oriental Institute, believes in a strong correlation between climate change and alien abductions. In 2012, Dr Chi gave a lecture at the the Ammach Conference, titled ‘Alien Abduction and the Environmental Crisis’ in which he outlined his theory concerning the presence of aliens on earth.

Dr Chi began his lecture with the statement that “perhaps human civilisation is coming to an end”.

In his fifty-five minute presentation he cited Dr David Jacobs, an ‘abduction researcher’ in the US, who argued that aliens’ primary purpose is to colonise the earth, by interbreeding with humans to produce a new hybrid species. Second generation ‘hybrids’ are, according to Jacobs, walking unobserved among us.


Robert Bigelo (Bigelo Aerospace /defense contractor) stated the same in his interview with 60 minutes (look it up for yourself)

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He concludes that “it may be more or less assumed that the hybrid project is a response to this impending demise of human civilisation”.

He went on to argue that if we act now on climate change, “not only can we save ourselves, but also prove aliens wrong in their judgement of our moral capacity”.


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Since the conference, Dr Chi has developed his theory, writing a book in Korean, the title of which roughly translates to: ‘Alien Visitations and the End of Humanity’. Dr Chi spoke exclusively to The Oxford Student regarding his theory. When asked whether he still holds the views outlined in the 2012 Conference, Dr Chi answered positively, elaborating on his views about alien abductions, the comprehensive biosphere theory and his hypotheses as to the reasons for ETs creating new human species.

Dr Chi believes that there are four types of aliens: small; tall and bold; aliens with scales and snake eyes; and finally, insect-like aliens. The latter of these seems to be the highest in the hierarchy, he said, and gives orders to the lower ranks.

Whilst he states that cases of alien abductions are diverse, he notes that “what is common is that they are all conducting some kind of biological experiment, including the production of a hybrid.” Explaining his theory of a comprehensive bio-system, Dr Chi stated, “If they are far, they shouldn’t be concerned about us. I don’t think they are from far away, they are just next to us, we can’t see them. We can use an analogy of fish which can think and perceive things only in the way they can and humans also perceive only in the way we can, so our perception of the world is limited by our organs.” According to Dr Chi’s theory, the fact that aliens and humans share the same biosphere means that climate change bears a negative impact on them, thus accounting for their increased interference in human affairs.

Dr Chi went on to outline his three hypotheses as to why aliens may want to produce hybrids with humans. He stated, “One possibility is that they find our DNA valuable for the preservation of the stock. Secondly, to create species which can survive in the future climate conditions…Thirdly, some abductees report that these hybrids are of a very high intelligence, so are they producing these hybrids as a problem-solver, a future leader?”


This fits what I have come across (including ancient/esoteric/religious traditions). Our reality is dictated by our perceptions (a band wrote a few songs about this...)

The territory gets very strange/very quick (at least for the hardcore material reductionist), but disparate phenomena become quite unified when viewed through this lens...
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 2:18 pm to
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This is an expectation of a person of true science



Reaching for a lesser likely explanation and working outward isn't scientific.

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There are many strange stories making the mainstream


Yes there are a lot of dumb people that believe that Lady Gaga is a devil worshiper is wrapped up in a giant cabal. It's called the internet. It's not some divine intervention that is bringing these things to mainstream. It's larpers who have access. Like you. Your Q thread is out of control. You aren't a person of science, you're a person of intrigue and what ifs
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 2:40 pm to
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Yes there are a lot of dumb people that believe that Lady Gaga is a devil worshiper is wrapped up in a giant cabal


I'd say there is a whole lot of evidence that these people are not mistaken.

Of course it's mostly "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck - maybe it's a duck."

If Lady Gaga is not a participant in a Luciferian cult, or the brainwashed toy of one, she behaves as if she were one.

Ah, a person of science... do tell.

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 2:41 pm to
I don't see how putting info on the moon is going to help me if we get knocked back to the stone age! I should make a website for that scenario!!! Maybe I already have?!

All the alien talk is disinformation. It was part of the DS s plan to fool you into accepting them as your rulers!
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 2:49 pm to
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I don't see how putting info on the moon is going to help me if we get knocked back to the stone age! I should make a website for that scenario!!! Maybe I already have?!


I read a science fiction short story once. The whole idea was the human race perished from ... something. Nuclear War maybe? It was the right era.

Anyone about a million years from now an alien expedition lands on Earth. All they can find remaining of our civilization are literally millions upon millions of ... ceramic toilets.

The conclusion of the Alien's visit report was that these unknown objects were of great importance to the extinct inhabitants of Earth, and undoubtedly had a great religious significance.

Might be unrelated but this Moon thing made me remember that story. Mainly because if civilization were wiped out in a catastrophe, any future civilization would have to be able to 1) Get to the Moon, and 2) Read a DVD.

Probably more useful for a prospective Alien visitor who wandered what exactly happened down there than some succeeding civilization of ours.
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 2:51 pm to
But Ancient Aliens said it was a cosmic war between the alien space armies of Tong Duurai fighting the Niurgun Bootur.

Giorgio is never wrong.
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