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re: America First my arse
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:14 am to tide06
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:14 am to tide06
Great. Again, nukes aside, do you think they should have been allowed to keep attacking American assets and killing civilians with no consequences?
You think the IAEA report was wrong?
Can you support your position or are you going off of feelings and emotion?
Yes, we blew up the sites where they were enriching uranium. At that time.
But we didn't hit Pickaxe Mountain, because no weapons grade enrichment was proven at the time. Things change (unless you don't believe the IAEA again. ) It's also deeper and more heavily fortified, so conventional bombing wouldn't be very effective.
Rubio laid it all out, with Iran producing missiles than interceptors could be produced. Add in the deal with China they signed for anti ship cruise missiles and the tipping point would have been reached.
You think the IAEA report was wrong?
Can you support your position or are you going off of feelings and emotion?
Yes, we blew up the sites where they were enriching uranium. At that time.
But we didn't hit Pickaxe Mountain, because no weapons grade enrichment was proven at the time. Things change (unless you don't believe the IAEA again. ) It's also deeper and more heavily fortified, so conventional bombing wouldn't be very effective.
Rubio laid it all out, with Iran producing missiles than interceptors could be produced. Add in the deal with China they signed for anti ship cruise missiles and the tipping point would have been reached.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:26 am to AC1221
No I don’t believe we should’ve gone to war with Iran. Not then, not in between and sure as hell not now.
You clearly do and are all in with the reports which I think are Israeli fairytales designed to do exactly what happened which is to weaken us, sew chaos in Iran to reduce their relative power and empower Israel regionally which is openly what they say internally they want and wanted to have happen.
Even if you did believe it that’s not what Trump ran on. He ran on building America economically, avoiding wars and draining the swamp and by making Iran the focus he took away any chance prior to the midterms of accomplishing the three things he was reelected to do.
So I hope that you think it was worth it, virtually no one else in America does and you just blew up the entire coalition to have your current impasse.
You clearly do and are all in with the reports which I think are Israeli fairytales designed to do exactly what happened which is to weaken us, sew chaos in Iran to reduce their relative power and empower Israel regionally which is openly what they say internally they want and wanted to have happen.
Even if you did believe it that’s not what Trump ran on. He ran on building America economically, avoiding wars and draining the swamp and by making Iran the focus he took away any chance prior to the midterms of accomplishing the three things he was reelected to do.
So I hope that you think it was worth it, virtually no one else in America does and you just blew up the entire coalition to have your current impasse.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:28 am to tigerbait3488
but the dems are America first are you on crack?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:41 am to RemyLeBeau
Which is it?
Either it's an acceptable risk and you're ok with a certain number of attacks and US deaths or the IRGC and their proxies need to be taken off the board.
Were the 46 American civilians killed on Oct 7th too close to Iran?
Either it's an acceptable risk and you're ok with a certain number of attacks and US deaths or the IRGC and their proxies need to be taken off the board.
Were the 46 American civilians killed on Oct 7th too close to Iran?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:44 am to AC1221
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Well, according to the IAEA, they were (theoretically) two weeks away.
Nukes aside, are you willing to go on record admitting that you're OK with Iran attacking US assets,
Name a war that we entered, since the War of 1812, that the USA was under attack?
Its always a threat, three thousand miles away, that is vital to our $$$$ interest.
What was vital in Korea, Viet Nam, Iran?
Meanwhile Drugs and Illegals are coming across the border. Illegals are serving in the government and sending billions of dollars out of the country.
How many Somalis have been sent back home. How many billions of dollars have been recovered.
Has anyone gone to Jail?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:47 am to Walt OReilly
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Trump will be just fine
Its people like us that will suffer
People like you deserve it.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:48 am to tigerbait3488
It is Trump First,Trump Alway,Trump in the Future.
***You think Trump cares? Trump is going into the sunset with the billions he grifted from his cult and our United States.
***You think Trump cares? Trump is going into the sunset with the billions he grifted from his cult and our United States.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:02 am to tide06
So they should have just been allowed to attack US assets, kill our troops and kill US civilians?
Israel has infiltrated the IAEA? And Iran's own admission they had enough enriched material to produce at least 11 dirty bombs?
Israel wants to weaken the one country that covers their arse and sends them gobs of money? ooookkkkk
This is just people cutting off their noses to spite their face, so i hope y'all think it was worth it.
Israel has infiltrated the IAEA? And Iran's own admission they had enough enriched material to produce at least 11 dirty bombs?
Israel wants to weaken the one country that covers their arse and sends them gobs of money? ooookkkkk
This is just people cutting off their noses to spite their face, so i hope y'all think it was worth it.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:05 am to prplngldtigr
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uneducated, lazy, emotional, entitled electorate
Truly thought you were talking about Republicans at first. In real life, a better description for the right, who didn't show up to vote yesterday.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:10 am to Gus007
You dont think an attack on US bases, troops, and ships are attacks on the USA?
And yes, unfortunately, Iran is tied to our $$$$ interest. I guess we shoould have let Iran and China do to the Strait of Hormuz what China and the Houthis did in the Red Sea. Should have let them control it, force oil sales in the yuan, right? who needs the petrodollar? It's not like thats the only thing holding up our whole house of cards.
And yes, unfortunately, Iran is tied to our $$$$ interest. I guess we shoould have let Iran and China do to the Strait of Hormuz what China and the Houthis did in the Red Sea. Should have let them control it, force oil sales in the yuan, right? who needs the petrodollar? It's not like thats the only thing holding up our whole house of cards.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:11 am to tide06
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He chose not to and his presidency ended and power was handed to the socialists and globalists as a result.
I am down for it.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:12 am to tigerbait3488
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He is getting what he deserves
And yet he’ll never understand/accept his role in what happened last night
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:15 am to Hobie101
Oh it’s both sides for different reasons.
The left stupidly chooses the death cult of communism.
The right stupidly doesn’t understand their responsibility to defend the nation against it.
You have posters here who say “meh the pendulum will swing back”…history is littered with frozen pendulums.
The left stupidly chooses the death cult of communism.
The right stupidly doesn’t understand their responsibility to defend the nation against it.
You have posters here who say “meh the pendulum will swing back”…history is littered with frozen pendulums.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 8:17 am
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:18 am to TitleistProV1X
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And yet he’ll never understand/accept his role in what happened last night
A common thing with the electorate. It’s never the fault of the voters…nevvvvver.
It 100% is.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:20 am to RohanGonzales
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He chose not to and his presidency ended and power was handed to the socialists and globalists as a result.
I am down for it.
Why on earth would you be down for it? There is no up and out of it after you fall down into it.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:23 am to prplngldtigr
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death cult of communism
Lost me here. These are the types of buzz phrases that cost the election for Reps
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:24 am to Hobie101
Nah, you just need a history lesson.
Yes you are lost.
Yes you are lost.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:24 am to tigerbait3488
*Iran gets a bomb*
“Damn it, Trump! Always talked like a tough guy but did nothing…”
“Damn it, Trump! Always talked like a tough guy but did nothing…”
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:26 am to tigerbait3488
quote:He does deserve this, but the rest of us don't.
He is getting what he deserves
Well, some of us do. There are many zio-cucks here who cheered his fealty to Israel.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:46 am to AC1221
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So they should have just been allowed to attack US assets, kill our troops and kill US civilians?
They weren’t doing that over here and relative to other existential threats we face shouldn’t have been a priority.
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Israel has infiltrated the IAEA? And Iran's own admission they had enough enriched material to produce at least 11 dirty bombs?
First off the Israelis according to Trump and Rubio provided intel directly to Trump prior to the war. Information that was directly in opposition to what Tulsi and our own IC was saying.
They lobbied for this according to Bibi and verified by Trump so yes, I believe they manipulated the WH into this situation for their own agenda in the ME because they told us what they wanted and Trump verified it.
Dirty bombs aren’t nuclear weapons, we’ve been told since the 80s the Iranians are close to a bomb and nothing that’s been done beyond the initial wave of bombings have any negative impact towards your perceived threat anyways.
What is your proposal for removing Iranian nuclear weapons now that you’ve destroyed the GOP coalition over it and handed control of the federal government to the left?
You bought this war and we’re all now paying the price, how do you now propose to end it?
We parking assets in the gulf until Trump leaves office even if it means diesel stays at $6?
You invading?
We lobbing nukes?
You’re acting as though we have the ability to flip a switch and achieve an outcome against a global power that’s spent two generations preparing for a conflict with us without taking draconian action against them after we’ve all watched that the lesser approaches haven’t worked at all.
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Israel wants to weaken the one country that covers their arse and sends them gobs of money? ooookkkkk
Again, not my words, theirs.
They say they want to be regional hegemon in the ME. Not me, not conspiracy people… their politicians.
How would they go about that with a strong Iran and strong America? It’s impossible.
So they’re using us to weaken them and remove any vestige of support for ME escapades knowing that no matter who wins their agenda is advanced and they’re closer to achieving their greater Israel project that was famously discussed and defended by Mike Huckabee.
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This is just people cutting off their noses to spite their face, so i hope y'all think it was worth it.
To be clear, I voted for the GOP again this cycle despite my disdain for the change in policy and s*** candidates Trump backed here in FL. It’s just apparent that nowhere near enough of the coalition members who got Trump into the WH that the MAGA diehards, neocons and Mark Levin types ran off during the first two years of the Trump WH are going to stick around for whatever the hell this has turned into.
And the end result of that? Exactly what the GOPe wanted all along which is the MAGA movement and Trump brand destroyed so they could run their limp wrist controlled opposition party again on behalf of their donor class.
So congrats, Israel wins, Iran is basically unchanged, the globalist RINOs have the party back and the socialist globalist left gets to keep us from replacing any USSC members for the next two cycles. Crushing it over there neocons.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 8:48 am
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