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re: Amber Vinson - 2nd Nurse - May have been sick before leaving to Ohio
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:18 pm to LSUGrrrl
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:18 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:The fever likely presents with the symptoms, but I can't answer those questions.
Could she have symptoms on Friday, as they are now saying is possible, and still have a temp of 99.5 on Monday? What leads them to believe she had symptoms as early as Friday?
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:21 pm to Scruffy
So she had her "fever" on Friday and it was still 99.5 on Monday?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:21 pm to KCT
quote:Yes. The medical definition of a fever is >/= 100.4.
Are you serious, Scruffy?
If you want to say she had a temp of 99.5F, go right ahead.
Don't try to redefine words to fit situations.
She did not have a fever.
quote:That doesn't forgive them for giving her permission.
You should go to work for the CDC, Scruffy. That's the same mindset that told her it was okay to fly to Cleveland.....and back.
That was idiotic.
Throwing around the word "fever" when it doesn't apply is also idiotic.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:22 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:What? Unless she got to 100.4 or higher, she never had a fever.
Posted by LSUGrrrl So she had her "fever" on Friday and it was still 99.5 on Monday?
What are you asking?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:23 pm to buckeye_vol
None other than Friedan himself said that these healthcare workers shouldn't be taking any kind of public transportation.
After two nurses have already gotten sick, that should be Common Sense 101.
After two nurses have already gotten sick, that should be Common Sense 101.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:23 pm to Scruffy
No one on this board is redefining words. The CDC and need are describing her 99.5 temp as a fever. That's where people are getting the word.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:23 pm to KCT
quote:On this we can agree.
None other than Friedan himself said that these healthcare workers shouldn't be taking any kind of public transportation.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:24 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:Is the CDC saying that or is CNN saying that?
No one on this board is redefining words. The CDC and need are describing her 99.5 temp as a fever. That's where people are getting the word.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:24 pm to KCT
quote:
Are you serious, Scruffy? 99.5 temperature PLUS the fact that she had been a primary caretaker for Dunson. You should go to work for the CDC, Scruffy. That's the same mindset that told her it was okay to fly to Cleveland.....and back.
Again the benefit of hindsight is convenient. Maybe Scruffy is actually capable of evaluating how one would typically make decisions in the past without the convenience of knowing the outcome. If we had that benefit then any idiot on tigerdroppings could be a head football coach and be paid millions.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:28 pm to KCT
quote:
None other than Friedan himself said that these healthcare workers shouldn't be taking any kind of public transportation. After two nurses have already gotten sick, that should be Common Sense 101.
Not excusing Friedan's incompetency, but we are discussing the actions of one of those two nurses before she got sick. It's obvious after the fact; that doesn't make one smart for realizing it now.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:29 pm to KCT
quote:
99.5 temperature
A medically relevant fever is generally considered to be 100.4 or greater. There are many people whose normal body temperature is in the 99-99.5 range.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:29 pm to buckeye_vol
Doesn't anyone worry about margin of error?
How about where the fever was measured, and with what device?
All of the nurses taking care of the patient should have been placed in travel/contact restrictions. If she felt sick enough to take the temperature that should have been considered a flag.
How about where the fever was measured, and with what device?
All of the nurses taking care of the patient should have been placed in travel/contact restrictions. If she felt sick enough to take the temperature that should have been considered a flag.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:30 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Yes. The medical definition of a fever is >/= 100.4.
If you want to say she had a temp of 99.5F, go right ahead.
Don't try to redefine words to fit situations.
She did not have a fever.
YOU would have fricked up an old Peggy Lee song:
You give me slightly elevated temperature of 99.5,
when you kiss me
Slightly elevated temperature when you hold me tight
Temperature of 99.5 in the morning,
Elevated Temperature of 99.5 all through the night
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:30 pm to austingator
Nobody "in charge" has shown any common sense.
Every morning I feel I take crazy pills when I see the news.
Every morning I feel I take crazy pills when I see the news.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:31 pm to buckeye_vol
Dude, have you ever heard of Nina Pham?
One healthcare worker who cared for Dunson had already contracted Ebola.
So, you're saying it took two cases before the CDC should have known better? Really?
The CDC's advise was STUPID at the time it was given.
One healthcare worker who cared for Dunson had already contracted Ebola.
So, you're saying it took two cases before the CDC should have known better? Really?
The CDC's advise was STUPID at the time it was given.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:31 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:31 pm to austingator
quote:
If she felt sick enough to take the temperature that should have been considered a flag.
I think they were all checking temps as a matter of course.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:33 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Nah dude, she was already bleeding from her eye sockets.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:34 pm to Scruffy
Well, I can't control if Reutors, CNN or any other news outlet mischaracterizes what is stated by the CDC but don't expect people to call it was temp when it's being reported as a fever.
I won't hold your ignorance of employment law against you bc I don't expect you to have the same level of knowledge considering you didn't study or work in that field. Perhaps you shouldn't expect laypeople to immediately know which individual words news outlets are attributing incorrectly to the CDC.
Your point is taken,though.
I won't hold your ignorance of employment law against you bc I don't expect you to have the same level of knowledge considering you didn't study or work in that field. Perhaps you shouldn't expect laypeople to immediately know which individual words news outlets are attributing incorrectly to the CDC.
Your point is taken,though.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Nah dude, she was already bleeding from her eye sockets.
Ahh...THAT explains it!
Vinson: "I THINK the thermometer is reading 99.5...but, it is difficult to read with my eye sockets bleeding"
CDC: "Well, go right on and fly, missy"
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 8:37 pm
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