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Am I the only one worried there actually is no solution?

Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:29 am
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19919 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:29 am
Mental Health exams, even rigorous ones, have been proven to accomplish nothing. People just fake it.

Taking away guns is probably literally the worst thing we could do.

Changing the 2nd amendment to not allow “assault weapons” (whatever that means) won’t work.

Background checks are obviously a failure.

If anybody has any ideas I’m all ears but I don’t see what the solution is to this gun violence epidemic in America.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65109 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:30 am to
The only solution would be to take everyone's guns. But then that presents a new situation where people cant defend themselves from gov or others. So really there is no solution
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
2966 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:35 am to
The first thing taken should be to ban any media outlets of naming the accused. Do not allow any recognition whatsoever to any shooter.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:44 am to
Not really sure this would help much to be honest. Plus there is that freedom of the press thingy.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19226 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:48 am to
Only solution would be to go door to door and confiscate all guns, but many more people would be killed in such a scenario than all the mass shootings combined. Americans aren't going to tolerate such a plan.

And people like this guy aren't really mentally ill (or insane) in the legal sense most of the time. They aren't hearing voices and what not. They are just narcissists and psychopaths of which there is no cure. Combine that with a fricked up world view and being egged on by online radicals who tell them the world is coming apart and this is what you get.

I don't see a solution for any of it. You'd have to repeal the 1st and 2nd amendments.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3305 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:49 am to
We have developed a culture where for some reason a small percentage of the population namely among the 19-23 male demographic does not value life not even their own. Its almost impossible to stop someone who doesnt have any sense of self preservation. The fact they choose the same type of weapons when many other weapons would be as effective shows how each previous incident is influencing the next. Columbine may have been the most infamously influential event of the ln the last 50 years, every mass incident since then is rooted in it.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26159 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:49 am to
Gun education and good parenting.

And a president who doesn't spread hatred would help.
Posted by Friedbrie
Abita Springs
Member since Jun 2018
1609 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:52 am to
Man, this is really a complex issue. Everything you list have been suggested high level (societal) changes. But I think you're right, none will work.

From some of the reports I've been reading the kid was a loner and fell through the cracks.

Perhaps change needs to occur at the individual or community level. Were the parents involved at all with this kid? Did they ever talk to him, his friends, school counselor, anybody? It seems this dude just mentally festered and snapped. And if he shelled up into himself, nobody tried to reach him before he snapped.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 12:56 am
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8261 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:53 am to
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And a president who doesn't spread hatred would help.




Please give examples of this so called hatred or else STFU.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:54 am to
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We have developed a culture where for some reason a small percentage of the population namely among the 19-23 male demographic does not value life not even their own. I


This. These mass shootings are a byproduct of hopelessness amongst young men. Something that's gone through the roof this past generation.
Posted by Apache
San Diego
Member since Dec 2013
2743 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:54 am to
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I’m all ears but I don’t see what the solution is to this gun violence epidemic in America.




Can you post any statistics to support this assertion that we are in the middle of an "epidemic"? Or are gun related crime levels pretty much where they always are? Honest question
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18873 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:55 am to
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gun violence epidemic in America.


Epidemic in the early 1990's, it's dropped 56% since then so not sure you know what "epidemic" means.
Posted by JFKJunior
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Member since Jun 2019
221 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:55 am to
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And a president who doesn't spread hatred would help.


Please list an example of how our President has spread hatred.

Oh you can't?

The exact opposite is the truth: it's you and your kind that are spreading all of the hatred.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19919 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:01 am to
Mass shootings, and I’m not talking about the dumb bs definition of mass-shootings that constitutes anything 3 and over. I’m talking about when people go to public places, take out guns, and just start shooting everybody in sight. And it’s an epidemic because now my grandmother is afraid to go to her local Houston grocery store.

Whether overall gun violence has dropped has no bearing on the deterioration of public safety. Random people getting shot for being at a store, or a club, or god forbid a school is not the same as Ricky getting mad at Joe and pulling a gun on him.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 1:02 am
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
4135 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:03 am to
I think the number of "mass shootings" is down but there are more casualties per incident. Heard that before this event today but I can't remember where.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18873 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:04 am to
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Whether overall gun violence has dropped has no bearing on the deterioration of public safety. Random people getting shot for being at a store, or a club, or god forbid a school is not the same as Ricky getting mad at Joe and pulling a gun on him.


Reality doesn't give two shits about what you feel kid. Just because the media tells the unthinking masses there's an epidemic doesn't mean there actually is.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19919 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:04 am to
We desperately need a change on the definition of mass-shootings. I don’t mean to downplay the severity of three people getting shot but it’s not a mass shooting.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19919 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:05 am to
What I feel? Where did I post jack shite about what I feel in that quote? Get off your high horse
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62559 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:05 am to
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I don’t see what the solution is to this gun violence epidemic in America.

That's the problem. There is no "epidemic" gun violence has been falling for decades. So expecting to find a "solution" to a media-generated narrative will be near impossible.


Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:06 am to
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And it’s an epidemic because now my grandmother is afraid to go to her local Houston grocery store.


Your grandmother is more likely to get robbed at gunpoint in Houston than she will be a victim of a mass shooting.
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