re: All You Had To Do Was Critically Investigate 911 And None Of This Would Be Happening

Idiotic.

Wrong context, he isnt calling anyone out as crazy or looney, and neither is the author.

Wilcox goes on to make a connection between the degree of non-rationality in a conspiracy theory and how committed a person is to that theory in this quote:

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For instance, it is logical to assume that non-rationality correlates to a marked degree with the theory of conspiracy

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And inside the Warren Commission report, the terms “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” is used once each in the CIA memo:

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Innuendo of such seriousness affects not only the individual concerned, but also the whole reputation of the American government. Our organization itself is directly involved: among other facts, we contributed information to the investigation. Conspiracy theories have frequently thrown suspicion on our organization, for example by falsely alleging that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for us. The aim of this dispatch is to provide material countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims in other countries.

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There was no dramatic rise in the usage of the word “conspiracy theory” after the CIA memo was released. The largest rise in the term was after the 1978 House Select Committee on Assassinations released their conclusions, including that “President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy”

The largest spike in increase of the usage of the term happened in 1997 with the release of the film Conspiracy Theory and the MIB films.


ETA: My point is, if the CIA had wanted to coin the term and make it widespread and ubiquitous in everyday language, they failed.

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This board has jumped the shark

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Chicken needs to rename this place the Conspiracy Theory Board or Psych Ward

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Firefighter reports of explosions, and of seeing “molten iron like in a foundry.” The petition states that the presence of molten iron would require temperatures higher than jet fuel and building contents could create when burned, but consistent with the use of the high tech explosive and incendiary thermite or thermate.

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Yet there was no evidence of molten iron or steel that had cooled in the cleanup

Witnesses report seeing molten material which could be glass or aluminum from the fires burning

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The presence of previously molten iron microspheres, which have been established by electron microscope analysis of WTC dust samples, by both government and independent scientists, is another phenomenon that would be scientifically impossible based on the burning of jet fuel and office contents alone.

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Microspheres can be created by striking a lighter. It can be made by burning steel wool. Or by burning paper printed with toner (which includes iron)

It’s not some crazy phenomenon

Your argument is weak, and you bore me.

Besides, I follow truth, not morons..

Now go design another jet engine for Fisher Price, or whoever you (dont) work for.

“I reject reality and truth and substitute it with fiction for my own sake of feeling unique or less depressed. My mental capacity and or illnesses prevents me from being able to escape this rabbit hole.”

That’s what I read when you type that. My dad is going down the same path you are. I tried to help.

I’m sorry life has brought you here. Good luck. Godspeed.

ETA: let me elaborate a bit more. My dad has rapidly gone down the rabbit hole of conspiracies and Qanon type theories and promises. It’s been destroying my family. He’s consumed so much of this over the past two years during times of great turmoil and tragedy for himself.

I’ve been trying to help him come back to reality because what he says and does is going to be the ruination of my family. Just recently he tried to “cash in” his birth certificate after learning it was some type of note from a conspiracy video.

I’ve had to learn about stuff which I know to be false and all of the arguments for it to be able to chip away at it and discredit it. I thought that you may have been easier to sway or help than my dad is but it’s obvious that conspiracy theories take hold like a religious parasite and do not release easily. I’m afraid just from the interactions I’ve had on here that I won’t be able to save my dad and his downward spiral will continue as he ages on.

I plan on having children within the next year or two and the plan was to have them around my parents a lot and now I doubt I’ll be able to do that.

My arguments and retorts were rooted in compassion. I’m not a shrill. I’m not paid. I don’t work for any field or sector involved that would try to discredit you. I’m sorry you’ve become this way, and I do wish the very best for you.

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7 - Preoccupied with conspiracy
5 - Conspiracy conspicuous
3 - Conspiracy present
1 - Hints at conspiracy
0 - No clear evidence of conspiracy

He also included a non-rationality scale

7 - Paranoiac overtones, confused, few or no credible facts
5 - Polemic, shrill, credible facts few and heavily stacked
3 - Heavily one-sided, credible facts still present
1 - Mildly one-sided, credible facts lightly stacked
0 - No clear evidence of non-rationality

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That is a fascinating scale.

In your estimation, where would the theory that some “9/11 Truther” debates — such as we see in this thread — are in reality gaslighting campaigns by shills who seek to discredit any criticism of the official 9/11 inquiry fall on the conspiracy/rationality scale?

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My arguments and retorts were rooted in compassion. I’m not a shrill. I’m not paid. I don’t work for any field or sector involved that would try to discredit you. I’m sorry you’ve become this way, and I do wish the very best for you.

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I salute you sir. And I send my prayers for your relationship with your father to improve.

But after my first post here, I went back and read quite a few more pages. I want to say I am impressed by your inputs to this thread - the tone, the applicability to topic, the authenticity of content, the brevity = all were worthy of respect and admiration.

Aside from my understanding of your familial situation, I want to congratulate you on the quality of your post.

Rare indeed.

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I added worthwhile content; take off your blinders and look it up. If your reply is, I dont want to look it up, that’s cool, I am not going to hold your hand either.