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re: AHCA Would Protect Only 5% of Those with Pre-Existing Conditions

Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
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BamaAtl


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
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type 2 diabetes is a pre-existing condition.

Those people gave themselves type 2 diabetes.

They killed themselves.



Thats not true. Thats a broad stroke.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:26 pm to
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being obese isnt the only way to get type 2 diabetes you fricking imbecile.

in fact, type 2 diabetes is ONLY contracted through your diet and actions.

fail again, you liberal fricking moron.

again simply not true.

Diet and actions are certainly part of it, but there are a ton of people who eat right, exercise, don't smoke, don't drink that still get it.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22754 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:29 pm to
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The Republican bill to repeal and replace Obamacare does not allocate nearly enough money to protect people with pre-existing health conditions from potentially higher insurance premiums

Why is it an outrage that if you cost more to insure that you will be required to pay more for your health insurance?

Seems like common sense to me.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:29 pm to
Kids also get type 2.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:33 pm to
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That's only 5 percent of the 2.2 million current enrollees in the individual insurance market with some type of pre-existing chronic condition.


those people will need to find a job with good benefits so that they'll have pre-existing condition coverage, like i have. simple really.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8434 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:34 pm to
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Kids born 3 months from now with Type 1 diabetes are screwed though.


As long as their parents are smart enough to have coverage, this is a lie.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:35 pm to
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As long as their parents are smart enough to have coverage, this is a lie.


And if the kid is unlucky and has dumb parents? Screwed. We don't get to pick our parents.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:37 pm to
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again simply not true.



it's mainly fat arses there are genetically susceptible types but it's mainly fat arses.

lay off the carbs you'd be amazed
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:37 pm to
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those people will need to find a job with good benefits so that they'll have pre-existing condition coverage, like i have. simple really.



Because those jobs are everywhere and so easy to find.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:38 pm to
i've had one since i was 22, today i turned 56.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:39 pm to
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those people will need to find a job with good benefits so that they'll have pre-existing condition coverage, like i have. simple really.


You're in for a big surprise when you realize that AHCA gives large group employer-based insurance the ability to strip essential health benefits. They could make treatment for your type-2 diabetes uncovered, or exempt surgeries that would then have lifetime caps.

Everyone is fricked by this except the richest 2% of Americans getting a massive tax cut. Everyone.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:41 pm to
And what about those kids birn to parents are not responsible?

There are limits and mot everything is black and white.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:42 pm to
People literally dying in the street, killing grandma, etc etc
Posted by swlaLSUfan
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:43 pm to
Republicans have thier own overwieght constituents. Take away thier insurance and see what happens.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49764 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
It's hard to believe you when you've made so many false claims in the past.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8434 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
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And if the kid is unlucky and has dumb parents? Screwed.


At some point, if you expect people to have to pay for other people's stupidity, there has to be a point of accountability. Apparently these people don't love their kids, the way I love mine and will do anything to provide for them.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
The problem is you are putting it all in a box and the box does not fit all.

Many studies show a genetic link to becoming obese and that moves into illnesses.

So not everything is as cut and dry.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19784 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
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This bill kills people.


"....hundreds of thousands."
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
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i've had one since i was 22, today i turned 56.


Well good for you. You are less than 1% of the population that stays in a job that long. Simply put there are more working aged adults in the country than there are jobs with good benefits.
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