re: Afghani's are pouring into Iran today

Why is this a concern?

What are Afghanis going to do in Iran and how does it affect the region or us?

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Point out where you did.

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Gotta give him a minute. He needs to comb through his last 25,000 posts or so since this started.

Of course, he can skim over all the ‘wut’
and posts. That ought to cut it by about 1/3.

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Our current objective is to strangle Iran economically, but you want us to believe that more people to drain their resources is a bad thing.


The USSR had the same plan circa 1980s in Afghanistan, they ended up strangling their own economy.

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No they didn’t. The USSR invaded and occupied Afghanistan.

We need to leave these people alone. It will always be a quagmire, nothing good comes from our involvement.

On the other hand, “Afghani” is doing a lot of work there. There are like a hundred different ethnic groups within Afghanistan and none of them call themselves Afghani. The Taliban comes from the largest ethnic group in Afghanistan, and they consider themselves Pashtuns. There is a large contingent of Shia Persians in the Kabul area that have in the past been targeted several times for extermination by both The Taliban and elements of the Northern Alliance who we supported. I don’t know what’s going on there now but it could be, and probably is, a refugee situation where those people are fleeing the Taliban into Iran where they have an historical, ethnic, and religious kinship. This would make them less likely to be a new terror front in Iran and more likely to be a bunch of more mouths to feed in a country that is already under tremendous resource strain because of the current war.

Iran sucks shite and shouldn’t be a regional power. It was a barely tenable position before the war and now that they are closing straits and attacking pipelines it is untenable, as is seizing the country and beginning an indefinite occupation, and so the economic option is the best and most viable one on the table. The problem is that there’s no guarantee it will work alone. When HW Bush put sanctions on North Korea he famously said that they can’t eat plutonium. But the leadship is not a democracy and has a monopoly on power and doesn’t give a shite if its people starve. Same with Iraq. After the first Persian Gulf war we put sanctions on them that led to a million deaths, and they weren’t in anyway dislodged until the marines and army showed up. The options are, either accept Iran now can toll the strait of Hormuz, invade them, or force their hand economically. Right now we are trying the third approach, and maybe we don’t need regime change, maybe we just need them to back off for the time being and then this just becomes one more foreign policy consideration going forward. It beats another forever war, and it beats them having control of a water way and the perceived loss that would be to American might around the world

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If only people had predicted stuff like this happening at the beginning of the war

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What the frick is the supposed threat to us from this?

Show us your post predicting it. There is no danger that we will import several hundred thousand or millions of them. We don't have a democrat president. Maybe we can get them SNAP benefits over there.